Black Beauty 1.6 FSI Turbo - A2Steve
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A2Steve
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If we had done a deal then it would have been your 90 that was being built instead. To be honest though I’m really coming around to an FSI. I would never have even considered owning one before Pro Boost was available but I now think they can be reasonably reliable transport. My commute is only 8 miles each way so suits a petrol more. It’s nice to have a revvy little engine too, rather than relying on the torque of the TDI.
Clackers
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Why why why do you set the bar so high!!!! I have something to aspire to now, maybe not as well specced as yours, but will try my damndest to get it somewhere near!!!! on a limited budget(only one income at the moment)...thanks for the high bar
, I'm sure many of us are not quite Olympians just yet!!!!!
, I'm sure many of us are not quite Olympians just yet!!!!!
PlasticMac
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@A2Steve says:
"I would never have even considered owning one before Pro Boost was available..."
Yet, the vast majority of engine related problem posts on here are by diesel owners, with the, very occasional, post by an FSI'er.
And yet, the FSI is regarded (largely, I suspect, by non FSI'ers) as best avoided?
Seems a blown turbo, and possibly consequent engine damage, is not worthy of caution, while a dodgy manifold is seen as the end of the world
@A2Steve goes on to say:
"It’s nice to have a revvy little engine too, rather than relying on the torque of the TDI"
Some of us have thought that for a while!
Sometimes the destination is worth the hassle of the journey. Good luck Steve!
Mac.
"I would never have even considered owning one before Pro Boost was available..."
Yet, the vast majority of engine related problem posts on here are by diesel owners, with the, very occasional, post by an FSI'er.
And yet, the FSI is regarded (largely, I suspect, by non FSI'ers) as best avoided?
Seems a blown turbo, and possibly consequent engine damage, is not worthy of caution, while a dodgy manifold is seen as the end of the world
@A2Steve goes on to say:
"It’s nice to have a revvy little engine too, rather than relying on the torque of the TDI"
Some of us have thought that for a while!
Sometimes the destination is worth the hassle of the journey. Good luck Steve!
Mac.
terrywindy1
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Maybe because there are 6x times the number of Tdi to Fsi on the road?And in general have higher mileage?
A2Steve
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Why why why do you set the bar so high!!!! I have something to aspire to now, maybe not as well specced as yours, but will try my damndest to get it somewhere near!!!! on a limited budget(only one income at the moment)...thanks for the high bar
I’m able to do it with this car because due to firstly buying it cheap and then having a good month with parts/the sale of my other FSI this car owes me very little indeed. I can therefore justify in my head spending a few quid on it to get something special that still only owes me the same as a medium priced A2.
PlasticMac
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The number of each engine type running (but not those parked up as long term projects) will account, in part, for the number of diesel engine posts compared to FSI posts'
What I find strange is the tacit acceptance of turbo failure, and consequent, potentially catastrophic engine damage, while the failure of the manifold flap mechanism, which is very unlikely to cause engine damage, just an EML dash warning (widely ignored, at least until ProBoost came along), is seen as a reason to avoid FSIs altogether, despite, as you say, being lower mileage, and, often higher spec.
Doesn't seem logical to me, but then, as an FSI'er, I'm biased!
Mac.
terrywindy1
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I own a 04 Tdi 90 and a 03 Fsi
Problems with Fsi are way more than Tdi
Despite me owning Tdi for 118 thousand miles and Fsi for 40 thousand miles.
Although it did cost me around £1k for a preventative Turbo refurb last year at 150,000 on Tdi.
PlasticMac
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terrywindy1
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All engine related yes
PlasticMac
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@terrywindy1 could you give us some details please? Manifold or other?
Mac.
Mac.
Darpod14
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Yes ? that would be nice for me! A prospective a2 owner in waiting! And the wait is not great let me say!
terrywindy1
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Just a month after buying car in 2016 had a strong smell of petrol and had the reducer from high pressure fuel pump to inlet manifold replaced because a seal failured.this happened 3 more times before finding someone before I owned the car had overtighted the union and had stretched the thread in the inlet manifold Then the coolant system started over pressuring on long journeys causing total coolant lose because of 3 different coolant pipes busting
So than had head gasket replaced by Tony at A2 cars including cambelt and waterpump,new thermostat, thermostat housing refurbished injectors,death pipe, manifold actuator arm
Then a nox sensor failed, then alternator failed
Then coolant system started over pressuring again with brown sludge in header tank
Had coolant system flushed but did same on long journeys
So 15 thousand miles after last head gasket and thermostat it had another one at WOM automotive
Still over pressurized coolant system so I ran it for a few months with no thermostat in it
It ran fine but was freezing to drive in the winter
Marcus and Rob think that problem is down to a cracked engine block and crack opens when the engine gets hot
I purchased another engine from someone on this forum
The car has been with WOM since last year. They fitted the new engine and are currently testing it to make sure everything is OK
I have probably spent 5 or 6 times what the car is worth trying to save this one as it is one of two factory Purple A2s
Now the TDI 90 apart from normally service and preventative service like turbo refurb and oil pump chain has been brilliant even duel mass flywheel lasted until 115k
If compare survival rate for TDI se down 30%
And survival rate for FSI se down 51%
The fsi is a good but flawed car
Since 2004 I have owned 11 TDI's the current chipped 6 speed TDI 90 since 2009 is the best .
I have also owned 2 other FSI's
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PlasticMac
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Bless (not my initial reaction) me, I hope it comes back from WOM fit and well. Sounds like previous owner/owners may not have been "mechanically sympathetic"(understatement). I think my view of the FSI might be different had I been as unlucky as you. Let's hope the car realises what a good steward it now has.
Mac.
terrywindy1
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Byzanz Purple A2
Love your car terry.The colour makes it and soooooo do those boleros.Stunning!:) Do i spy a C4 Audi 100 there.:D I think the Boleros were an option on A2 Sports in Europe,but were not offered in the UK These ones are from a S3 Yes, that a C4 Tdi paid £900 for it in 09 with 130k on it...
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A2Steve
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I don’t have plans to sell it at present, I’m doing it for myself ?
A2Steve
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@terrywindy1 I'm really glad you’ve stuck with it, shows a real appreciation for the marque. I’m not trying to peddle my wares because I make very little on each unit, but perhaps a pro Boost ECU May be a good idea when you get the car back as a preventative measure going forward.
Jeetesh
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The propensity for problems is equal for both, the difference however is that they happen at different mileages with different problems. On average FSI’s have much lower mileages than TDI’s.
For say £2k you’d get a lowish mileage FSI or higher mileage TDI. Whilst inlet and EML are more common on higher mileage FSI’s, turbos amongst other items fail on TDI’s. What seems to be discounted is the wear and tear on other components/parts. If we compared how many TDI’s have had suspension component changes, worn out interiors, etc compared to FSI’s, FSI’s will be less. We are ultimately not comparing apples with apples.
I’ve owned both a TDI 75 and now an FSI. When I was out looking for my A2 (choice of both) I had my budget which was for purchase/replacement parts/retrofits. My FSI with 25k miles (at purchase) needed next to nothing so just minor fixes and retrofits where as the TDI 90 (130k miles) needed £1k+ spending (suspension, turbo, oil leak, cam belt/water pump), let alone worn out interior, climate, radio, electric window and light switches (unknown cost), then retrofits on top. The TDI would have cost far more which makes stomaching retrofits harder on higher mileages.
In my mind mileage and condition are imperative and whilst most could live with worn out interiors it’s not what I wanted from my A2 (my ocd I know). Low mileage and good condition tend to go hand hand and whilst every car is prone to problems, lower mileages cars will have less, that swayed it for the FSI, especially at 25k miles and I absolutely do not regret it. There are very few low mileage TDI’s and those that have them won’t let them go.
@PlasticMac - FSI bashing is not ideal and suspect whatever is said and a ProBoost solution it will no doubt continue. Us FSI’ers have something a bit rarer and a car with a smooth and quiet engine which endows the A2 FSI with a different personality altogether. We may have the last laugh!
A2Steve
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