Test drove an ID.3 1st Edition today

I recently drove golf mk8, hideous thing 1.0 petrol base model, truly awful feel to touch inside and way too much digital info, ended up switching it all off! It swerves you if it thinks your drifting in Lane, lethal when trying to pass a cyclist, and yeah it tells you sharp bend coming up and tries to ow you down etc. Just a pile of rubbish, either the vehicle is driving itself or I am, this is halfway nonsense. Loved getting back into a normal car with buttons and switches. Rant over.
 
Personally, I've had a 2019 company Passat with ACC and Auto-Speedlimits accelerate by itself in roadworks when it passed a covered no-speedlimit sign.
Not fun.

Re ID3: Got to drive one a few months ago and was surprised how much it was like the Golf 8 I got to drive a few days prior which was mostly fine (though I still prefer 2000s cars I think - less computers!) EDIT: though admittedly that was a GTI, not a 1.0 ?
To be honest, the worst thing was that atrocity of a gearknob and the terrible charging experience (way harder than expected to have the car find a charger, then basically impossible for a mobile phone-illiterate person to get it charged - struggled to get a working app as a 20-something IT guy...).
 
Could that be the ID3 function of adapting speed to road layout (probably a better word for this), e.g. slowing for a roundabout or to exit a motorway?
Yes, ACC, Adaptive Cruise Control.

RAB
 
To be honest, the worst thing was that atrocity of a gearknob and the terrible charging experience (way harder than expected to have the car find a charger, then basically impossible for a mobile phone-illiterate person to get it charged - struggled to get a working app as a 20-something IT guy...).
What's wrong with the gear change? Clockwise to toggle between D and B, anticlockwise for R. Press the button to stop. Couldn't be easier. The other issues would apply to any car, EV or otherwise. You could always use an RFID card instead of a mobile.

RAB
 
Personally, I've had a 2019 company Passat with ACC and Auto-Speedlimits accelerate by itself in roadworks when it passed a covered no-speedlimit sign.
Not fun.

I have experienced similar in my 2020 Passat where there is a side road running parallel with a motorway which has a speed limit of 40mph the car thinks I'm speeding and slams the brakes on to reduce the speed from 70 to 40, terrifying when it first happened but now it has meant I really struggle to trust the system. Hopefully the diagnostics information that the car says it sends to VW will eventually cause their system to flag this and update the data, it is on a road I drive very frequently (M54 northbound past the i54 estate).
 
The ID.3's ACC works by GPS, although the manual mentions reading road signs. However, it changes speed where there are no road signs! I've not yet tried setting the speed just above the speed limit - I'll try it.

RAB
You can increment the set speed up and down by 1kmh or 10kmh (or 1mph or 5mph), depending on how hard you press the button on the steering wheel, even though it may be above the limit.

RAB
 
What's wrong with the gear change? Clockwise to toggle between D and B, anticlockwise for R. Press the button to stop. Couldn't be easier. The other issues would apply to any car, EV or otherwise. You could always use an RFID card instead of a mobile.

RAB

I mean, how hard would it have been to make it "Push forward" to go forward and pull backward to Go there like almost every other Car? Just unnecessary to make it a twisty-turny thing imho.

Re charging: It was a dealer curtesy Car and No Card was provided so it was make it Up as you go or get stranded.
 
I mean, how hard would it have been to make it "Push forward" to go forward and pull backward to Go there like almost every other Car? Just unnecessary to make it a twisty-turny thing imho.

Re charging: It was a dealer curtesy Car and No Card was provided so it was make it Up as you go or get stranded.
You mean a gear stick? Given that you don't have to use it very often, I find the ID.3 solution much more preferable.

As for charging, use the Chargemap app (on phone or PC) which seems to cover most of Europe, including most if not all networks (including Ionity). Free to sign up to, pay €19-90 for an RFID card (or use your phone). Unfortunately it doesn't cover the UK! For Ionity, open a free VW We Connect account - it's about half the cost of using Chargemap! There's also a route planner (with charging places) in the app.

RAB
 
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So far so good. I'll see how I get on in France. The ID.3 is always online when you drive it (if you want it to be).

RAB
I notice when using Apple Maps for navigation, sometimes the speed limit the app displays is not the speed limit for the road; things like 20mph areas where the app displays 30.
I wonder where VAG sources road data?
 
I notice when using Apple Maps for navigation, sometimes the speed limit the app displays is not the speed limit for the road; things like 20mph areas where the app displays 30.
I wonder where VAG sources road data?
They just say a third party. I'll be taking TomTom with me to France as a comparison. I suspect that some of the changes from 90 to 80kmh are not signposted in France.

Update: Found this:


RAB
 
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I have experienced similar in my 2020 Passat where there is a side road running parallel with a motorway which has a speed limit of 40mph the car thinks I'm speeding and slams the brakes on to reduce the speed from 70 to 40, terrifying when it first happened but now it has meant I really struggle to trust the system. Hopefully the diagnostics information that the car says it sends to VW will eventually cause their system to flag this and update the data, it is on a road I drive very frequently (M54 northbound past the i54 estate).

I had a life pro performance ID3 on loan for a weekend back in July and did some miles on the A9 through the average speed cameras section. The speed was set to 40mph in line with the current limit and to my alarm the car seemed to spot a sign in the distance (for another road) and started to accelerate hard back up to 70...very alarming and unexpected!

I couldnt figure out how to switch this off so had to stop the car another once going through the restricted 40mph area but was more ready for it when it did it.

I was impressed with the 58Kwh car but ultimately the performance and kit on the model 3 long range won over. I was particularly impressed with the road comfort.
 
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