A2 reimagined by Audi

V666col said:
If this would actually happen can you imagine what the price could be. Especially when you consider how expensive the original was. I think I will wait till they are old.
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The A2 was expensive as it used aluminium in many different forms: castings, extrusions and sheet and these had to be assembled and welded by robots. The A2 was an experiment to see how the aluminium A8 construction could be simplified to make a lower cost mass produced vehicle. For example spot-welding, clinching and structural bonding used on the A8 were completely eliminated on the A2 and replaced by a world first laser welding.

[source: The 2nd-generation Audi Space Frame of the A2: A trendsetting all aluminium car body concept in a compact class car
Authors: Wulf Leitermann , Jens Christlein]

It's not surprising the A2 lost money if these experimental / development costs (including the robotic assembly line) were all heaped on the A2 rather that spread over a number of models.

Any relaunch would be steel and use the common MEB platform.
 
Alan_uk said:
The A2 was expensive as it used aluminium in many different forms: castings, extrusions and sheet and these had to be assembled and welded by robots. The A2 was an experiment to see how the aluminium A8 construction could be simplified to make a lower cost mass produced vehicle. For example spot-welding, clinching and structural bonding used on the A8 were completely eliminated on the A2 and replaced by a world first laser welding.

[source: The 2nd-generation Audi Space Frame of the A2: A trendsetting all aluminium car body concept in a compact class car
Authors: Wulf Leitermann , Jens Christlein]

It's not surprising the A2 lost money if these experimental / development costs (including the robotic assembly line) were all heaped on the A2 rather that spread over a number of models.

Any relaunch would be steel and use the common MEB platform.
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Given the weight of the batteries, the weight of the shell is much less significant now.
Mac.
 
A2Steve said:
Fantastic, they could easily market that.
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I think we have to remember us lot are biased. I showed the A2 to two different female friends over the weekend both of them said “It’s the ugliest car I’ve ever seen!”

I’m not one to say they’re pretty cars either, I like how it looks because I know the design needs have dictated it’s shape and styling - but maybe you have to know (and be interested in) that design and engineering backstory to see the beauty in them.

Cheers,

Stuart
 
Erlingtheyounger said:
Oh I’m well aware. But surely it should be?
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If you start off in the wrong direction you are in trouble.
To get the range you need enough battery storage which in turn dictates the size, hence the big wide and very heavy size of car.
To get the regen braking you need bigger wheels to fit it inside / around.
To handle the weight / power / handling / styling you need the big truck like tyres.
You end up with cloned types of vehicles by all manufacturers.
I believe that hydrogen requires a small fuel tank style tank that is quick to fill.
An ICE vehicle only needs modifications to adapt to hydrogen fuel or a hydrogen mix combo fuel.
You don't need a big heavy vehicle to get your range.
It will have it's issues like all new fuels but I believe it is the way to take the largest slice of the alternative fuels market.
 
PlasticMac said:
Yes, but most car buyers have no idea, so wouldn't pay the premium, that a lightweight shell would add.
Mac
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Yep. And that’s because mushroom marketing (keep them customers in the dark and feed them…..) is much easier and more profitable than clever engineering and educating customers. One might say it’s a microcosm for most problems in the world!!!
 
Erlingtheyounger said:
Yep. And that’s because mushroom marketing (keep them customers in the dark and feed them…..) is much easier and more profitable than clever engineering and educating customers. One might say it’s a microcosm for most problems in the world!!!
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The really worrying is thing is that some people no longer have the ability to think things through, just soak up what "influencers" tell them.
Mac.
 
For me it seems like something similar to oldschool photoshops. Slap on big wheels, remove extremely useful and functional things for beauty, add some led's and voila, we have a nice sportscar.
Do i need to smash my muddy boot into door for it to open? With those wheels and arches it needs very stiff suspension, so with that amount of rubber it would be very "comfy" indeed. Main lights seem to be missing. Boot prolly could be opened if electrical and hide switch into audi badge. Muffler seems in place, so at best it's and hybrid, but i doubt they would make that, so probably regular A2 with fuel refilling moved inside/disabled. Wheels do not seem aerodynamic and sticking out plenty, given their width, there should be some flaps before them. Front bumper seems reused original with minor modifications, but if they made it today, it would be more aerodynamic, probably would have more lip etc. Those lower air intakes there and entire cavity would be gone, but might have air ducts near sides. Rear would become at least a little bit more sharper too for some extra aerodynamics. Rear plate does not seem to have lighting, so seems illegal to drive etc.

But i always preferred practicality over beauty. At least A2 saw some attention there, so is fine....
 
rasA2 said:
wonder if they the redesigned the interior?
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when you look at the larger size version of the first image and ignore the reflections you can see that there are different headrests with an aluminium insert in the gap between the seat body and the upper end, suggesting one-piece sports seats like Audi RS Recaro types of thing. I suspect that along with these there will have been work on the interior / dashboard.

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Robin_Cox said:
when you look at the larger size version of the first image and ignore the reflections you can see that there are different headrests with an aluminium insert in the gap between the seat body and the upper end, suggesting one-piece sports seats like Audi RS Recaro types of thing. I suspect that along with these there will have been work on the interior / dashboard.

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And from the extended press pack.

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And Audi Tradition's Tiktok channel.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7428148075392159008
 
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Not impossible, Renault have the "reimagined" Twingo, and Renault 5 about on sale, or about to be.
Somehow, I don't see Audi doing a "retro" eTron though.
Mac.
 
VonB said:
I think we have to remember us lot are biased. I showed the A2 to two different female friends over the weekend both of them said “It’s the ugliest car I’ve ever seen!”

I’m not one to say they’re pretty cars either, I like how it looks because I know the design needs have dictated it’s shape and styling - but maybe you have to know (and be interested in) that design and engineering backstory to see the beauty in them.

Cheers,

Stuart
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I agree, majority of people do not like the shape of it. But I just love it, although I joke a lot, that you do not know where the front and the back is.

But this reimagend A2 is just bonkers, I love it, except the front lights seem a little strange to me.
 
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