Adding additional keys- including the new shape key

Hi

I thought a summary of the various options might help.


To re-pair a key that has stopped unlocking / locking remotely.

This one is an easy one.
Just switch on the ignition and then press the unlock button on the key that has stopped working (as long as the battery is not flat in the key fob)
Switch off the ignition, remove the key and it should now operate the door locks,

(you can use one key in the ignition and re-pair a different key if you want, you don't have to re-pair the key in the ignition if that one is already ok)


To add an additional key that has never been paired to the car before.
Firstly ensure that you have bought a key that has the same part number as the one you already have.
You can get a blade cut (there are even people on eBay that can provide you with a new key blade if you just end them a photo of the original blade in the key you already have)
I think that many key cutters can do this for you too. (Timsons and the like)
You can pair the remote operation on the new./secondhand key, but ideally you will need VCDS (there is a method that is supposed to work that involves putting the key in the door lock, but to be honest I have tried this several times and never succeeded).

To pair the remote function on a key that has not been paired before
(The following is done after you have selected control function 46 "CCCU" in the VCDS screen and clicked on adaption)


"Enter channel "21" and click on [Read]

This is supposed to display the number of currently stored remotes in "Stored Value".
- Mine always displayed "0" as I think all A2s do?

The "New Value" field is used to indicate the POSITION of the key (out of the 4 positions) NOT the number of keys you want to code,
So instead of following the Ross Tech instructions, try this,
You use the "up/down" arrow to move to the position you want the key to be in (of the 4 possible positions) and then (without clicking test or save or anything) press the unlock button on the key that you want to pair into that position (you might have to hold the unlock down a few seconds, but it is normally quite quick), the field near the top right will change from "initialising" to "Recognised" then click on "save".
You have now paired the first key.
Now repeat this for each key you have (changing the position each time) remembering to save after you get the "recognised" message.

So I would recommend the following, click on the up arrow to get the "1", the field will show "adjustment", press the unlock on the key you want to pair first and the field will change to "recognised" click on save and then you have now paired the first key. Then use the up arrow to move to "2" and then press the unlock button on the second key that you want to pair, when that changes to "recognised" you save that and then repeat for "3" and "4" saving each time. (if you want 4 keys that is!!)

You will now have keys that all work your remote locking.

This process will also work for the new shape keys if you have a CCCU that has a part number that ends in "AF" and a new shape key that has a part number that ends in 220 K. I will be trying to find out which other CCCUs these keys will pair to, but for now I can only guarantee the "AF" unit will pair with a 220 K key (do not buy any other keys, only the 220 K has been proven to work.

The biggest problem you have now is that when you try and use the new key the engine will cut out almost instantly and you will get the flashing "immobiliser" icon.
That is because the final step is to fit a new immobiliser chip and code that to the car. (if you have an old working key that you no longer want to use you can TRY and remove the chip from that and replace it in the new key, but they are well glued in and they are a fragile glass tube. But I have done this a few times and so it can be done. The chip is inside the "key" end of the fob and you will have to lift off the Audi rings to get at the screw that holds it together.

If you can't swap the chip for whatever reason your options are limited. You can take it to Audi to get them to pair the chip (at a large cost). Or you can ask on here if there is anyone local that has the right cable to rad your instrument cluster and get the all important login code to enable you to use VCDS to reprogram a new chip.


I will post a link on this "how to" later, to show how to pair a new immobiliser chip with VCDS once you have your login code.

Steve B
 
Now out of stock, and suitability for early period A2 specified. - Andy
My mistake, I'd assumed you were using the new style fob.
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VCDS-lite. Had to register it with Ross-Tech before I could use the pairing functions. Needed to read login code as per Steve's guide using the VAG commander software. Fob was from eBay, seller Wigankeystore £23.49 + £2.35 tracked postage. Hope that helps.
Hi Steve, could you programme a key to my A2? I am near Bath.

Cheers

Chris
 
Hi Steve, could you programme a key to my A2? I am near Bath.

Cheers

Chris
Happy to do it if you can bring car and virgin fob to Stroud when I'm around. But I recommend getting the kit and doing it yourself...it's not expensive, very satisfying and you will be equipped to configure and fault find to your heart's content in future :)
 
Happy to do it if you can bring car and virgin fob to Stroud when I'm around. But I recommend getting the kit and doing it yourself...it's not expensive, very satisfying and you will be equipped to configure and fault find to your heart's content in future :)

Hi Steve,

can get to Stroud quite easily. Could I talk on the phone to you about this? I think if I did buy the kit I could do it too

just need a bit of guidance.

my no is 07719 445 477

cheers

Chris
 
hello

i had to write in forum a while ago but here i am again!!!
i own a 8Z0 959 433 AE cccu
as i saw the new shape keys it is possible to be programmed only with AF cccu
can someone tell me what kind of keys i can program with my cccu?
somewhere here i saw that there are 2 kind of keys and the difference it's in the Mhz.
is it possible an aftermaket key with the right transponder chip and the right Mhz paired successfully with vcds if i have the pin code from my instrument cluster?
Greetings From Greece
Nick
 
hello
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can someone tell me what kind of keys i can program with my cccu?
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Greetings From Greece
Nick
I assume you have a key for your A2. It seems to me the simplest way to answer your question is for you to temporarily split your existing key and look at the part number of the fob and purchase another key with this part number. Instructions are in the handbook under replacing the fob battery if you do not know how to split the key, but if you do not have the handbook basically a small single slot screwdriver in the "hole", press tip and pull each half apart, it might be stiff to separate. You will see the part number, it may be tiny and you may need a magnifying glass, I think it will be 8Z0 837 231 (early A2's) or 8Z0 837 231 D (later A2's I think) and the MHz which must match any key purchased, including the important D if present. Used keys available on eBay in the £10 to £20 range but you will have to buy a virgin immobiliser chip as well but some sellers offer keys with a virgin immobiliser chip installed.

Your question about using an aftermarket alternative key sounds fraught with disappointment.

Ask if you want further help.

Andy
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I own a 8Z0 959 433 AE cccu
as i saw the new shape keys it is possible to be programmed only with AF cccu
can someone tell me what kind of keys i can program with my cccu?
The AE CCCU is identical to the AF CCCU but is designed for A2s with rear electric windows. As such, all keys that are compatible with the AF CCCU are also compatible with the AE CCCU.

Cheers,

Tom
 
I assume you have a key for your A2. It seems to me the simplest way to answer your question is for you to temporarily split your existing key and look at the part number of the fob and purchase another key with this part number. Instructions are in the handbook under replacing the fob battery if you do not know how to split the key, but if you do not have the handbook basically a small single slot screwdriver in the "hole", press tip and pull each half apart, it might be stiff to separate. You will see the part number, it may be tiny and you may need a magnifying glass, I think it will be 8Z0 837 231 (early A2's) or 8Z0 837 231 D (later A2's I think) and the MHz which must match any key purchased, including the important D if present. Used keys available on eBay in the £10 to £20 range but you will have to buy a virgin immobiliser chip as well but some sellers offer keys with a virgin immobiliser chip installed.

Your question about an aftermarket alternative key sounds fraught with disappointment.

Ask if you want further help.

Andy
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thanks for info Andy
the 231 keys have the part number under the blade
231D i have to split the key to see the part number!!!!
mine is the 231D!!!

The AE CCCU is identical to the AF CCCU but is designed for A2s with rear electric windows. As such, all keys that are compatible with the AF CCCU are also compatible with the AE CCCU.

Cheers,

Tom

Thank you very much Tom

somewhere i found the part number 8E0 key the new shape
i remember that was in the last 220 K
is it possible to give me the complete part number to order a used one because i have some new transponder chips laying around so i can test it ?

Kind Regards
Nick
 
thanks for info Andy
the 231 keys have the part number under the blade
231D i have to split the key to see the part number!!!!
mine is the 231D!!!



Thank you very much Tom

somewhere i found the part number 8E0 key the new shape
i remember that was in the last 220 K
is it possible to give me the complete part number to order a used one because i have some new transponder chips laying around so i can test it ?

Kind Regards
Nick
Is this any help? - Andy
 
Hello
I would like to get a 2nd key for my FSI. The CCCU is the AE type (rear electric windows)
The existing key is a 8Z0837231D /2024A4
I have seen on the fleebay a whole set of 2 keys, ring for the steering column and driver door lock, could this work? If not, any advice?
Also found the chip that goes inside the key for the immobilizer, on fleebay.
If I can't find someone near enough to reprogram my new key, what kind of tool/kit do I need?
Thanks
 
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Hello
I would like to get a 2nd key for my FSI. The CCCU is the AE type (rear electric windows)
The existing key is a 8Z0837231D /2024A4
I have seen on the fleebay a whole set of 2 keys, ring for the steering column and driver door lock, could this work? If not, any advice?
Also found the chip that goes inside the key for the immobilizer, on fleebay.
If I can't find someone near enough to reprogram my new key, what kind of tool/kit do I need?
Thanks

in my opinion it's better to take a used key a new blade and a transponder chip and then to program it to your car ideally.
you don't change something in your car and that's it ;)
 
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