Angry Bee

It’s been 2 months since the decision was made to rebuild the engine. Just before Christmas, while in bed with covid, I get the call that the engine is s complete, new pistons a new squirted and what ever else was required during the process. It’s now off to the garage to be reunited with the car. Hopefully after this the car can be MOT’ed once again and this project can start off again.

-I have the door handles to do, don’t know why but these need changing. And I have a correctly coloured set.

-ColorDIS getting a date together with Timmus for this.

-short shifter, don’t know why but I’m going to try an adjustable short shifter and see how slick I can get the gear change.

-deep clean, really want to get her perfectly clear, she’s been sat so long a while work.

- fix on votex wing

- re-enforce votex, I’ve notified the votex skirts can sag a little and looking for the the best way these can be re-enforced, does anyone have any advice on this?


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Edwrai said:
- re-enforce votex, I’ve notified the votex skirts can sag a little and looking for the the best way these can be re-enforced, does anyone have any advice on this?


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I must confess I know very little about construction and materials used for the votex parts, but I did a lot of composite repairs to rowing boats over the past 20 years where the ability to increase strength without adding a lot of weight is key. If we had an issue with rigidity and there isn't space for ribs or webbing along the entire inside of the moulding , I would look at putting a reinforcing skin of carbon fibre on the inside of the part, preferably with some sort of second-dimension component such as a fold or a lip, or a step over a layer of foam core mat (giving a top hat section with two vertical sides) ; if there is space to do this without making contact with structures behind the skirt, the rigidity of the part that this is bonded onto goes up hugely. Same principle as an internal keel reducing vertical flexing, or laterally-folded saxboards on the upper edge of the rowing shell reducing the amount that the sides of the boat can flex in and out (think of what would happen if you lift up a very long bathtub from the absolute ends : the middle wants to sag downwards under its own weight and the sides would then push outwards and the opposite when the middle is lifted and the ends hog ; the perpendicular reinforcements of the keel and saxboards resist these vertical and lateral bending movements respectively).

Do you have a photo of the inside of the skirts or annotated on the car showing the sagging problem?
 
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Robin_Cox said:
I must confess I know very little about construction and materials used for the votex parts, but I did a lot of composite repairs to rowing boats over the past 20 years where the ability to increase strength without adding a lot of weight is key. If we had an issue with rigidity and there isn't space for ribs or webbing along the entire inside of the moulding , I would look at putting a reinforcing skin of carbon fibre on the inside of the part, preferably with some sort of second-dimension component such as a fold or a lip, or a step over a layer of foam core mat (giving a top hat section with two vertical sides) ; if there is space to do this without making contact with structures behind the skirt, the rigidity of the part that this is bonded onto goes up hugely. Same principle as an internal keel reducing vertical flexing, or laterally-folded saxboards on the upper edge of the rowing shell reducing the amount that the sides of the boat can flex in and out (think of what would happen if you lift up a very long bathtub from the absolute ends : the middle wants to sag downwards under its own weight and the sides would then pull inwards under tension ; the keel and saxboards resist these vertical and lateral bending movements respectively).

Do you have a photo of the inside of the skirts or annotated on the car showing the sagging problem?
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That’s very interesting thank you, my thoughts would be something like alu box rod there is loads of space to play with inside the votex

The sagging itself is in the lower bit, not the bit that joins the car.

I’ll take a photo when I can.


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George Hogg said:
How did the conversion go? This looks great!!!
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Getting the engine in was one evening, everything else has taken a long time, especially because the engine that went in had issues I didn’t know about before I put it in.


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Hope you’re feeling better. Votex kits are vacuum formed, its either HDPE material or more likely ABS, both are thermoplastic so you can heat weld on to them.
I’d love to hear hear how she runs with the rebuilt engine! Any advice you can give me on how to do the conversion would be most welcome!
 
She had some detailing done today

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A2Steve said:
Now that is bloody lovely. What a cracking example. Looking forward to seeing this in person. @Proghound you've got some competition :)

Edward, have you fitted a 1.4 tailgate or modified the votex spoiler?
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No competition at all, with the work Ed's had done on her, Angry Bee wins hands down :) Proud to have been the source of the Votex boot spoiler though. It's an early Birchall replica that was included in the deal I struck with Jeff for my Storm, but I soon realised it wasn't going to look right on its own. I'm not into the rest of the kit so when Ed put out some feelers a while back after all his hard work on the engine conversion, I thought that would be the better place for it.
 
A2Steve said:
Now that is bloody lovely. What a cracking example. Looking forward to seeing this in person. @Proghound you've got some competition :)

Edward, have you fitted a 1.4 tailgate or modified the votex spoiler?
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Neither, I had the glass transferred from my tdi 90. The more bloke that did it really regretted it.


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Proghound said:
No competition at all, with the work Ed's had done on her, Angry Bee wins hands down :) Proud to have been the source of the Votex boot spoiler though. It's an early Birchall replica that was included in the deal I struck with Jeff for my Storm, but I soon realised it wasn't going to look right on its own. I'm not into the rest of the kit so when Ed put out some feelers a while back after all his hard work on the engine conversion, I thought that would be the better place for it.
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Converting it to have the bolt holes was a challenge however.


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Having admired the work Ed @Edwrai did on this car (especially with no prior knowledge/skills) I didn't think that i'd one day own it.

Popped down to Bristol with @Hef yesterday (thank you again) to see Steve @Cenick who'd owned it for a month or two since Ed sold it.

Bringing it back from Bristol, it felt, just like any other A2 i've owned and although I liked it, I wasn't blown away.

All has changed this morning though, because i've just done a commute to work down the country lane B roads that surround my home. I haven't had this much fun in a car for quite some time.

I've got plans for the car that will see a few changes being made and putting my own stamp on it, but for now, i'm very pleased.

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Proghound said:
Aren't you thinking of @Jeffers66? I bought his yellow Storm TDI in late 2019, and he does indeed still have the yellow TT. Last I knew, @Edwrai had another yellow Storm 1.4, and I think also a '90. I don't know any more about those though.
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Deffo had a 3.2 that’s he’s thinking of selling when I was there - didn’t see anything else unless they are storage


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