Audi A2 6 speed upgrade path

bretti_kivi said:
... and the point remains "why do it?" If the lifetime of the car is limited - which it will be by the EML, then any benefit from the 6 speed is moot, especially at UK speeds. There's minimal fuel to be saved, complexity added and potentially another weak point in the system.

we have multiple conversions to 6 speed on the German forum. Some work well, others have issues - too many for me to personally consider this as a viable option. The 'box change has been done, additional work as per Tony nd there's another option that escapes me right now. 3k rpm at 70mph is high, by todays standards, buy expecting any return over 'because i can' is foolish.

- Bret
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Bret, who else does the 6 speed conversion? There's Eurotuning in Prague (if they're still doing it) but it's expensive. I'd like to have it on my TDi75 but mine's an early one so the MYP option wouldn't work. It would make motorways so much more relaxing - and yes I know it would take 25 years to pay off in terms of improved fuel consumption.
Trevor
 
trevorswaine said:
Bret, who else does the 6 speed conversion? There's Eurotuning in Prague (if they're still doing it) but it's expensive. I'd like to have it on my TDi75 but mine's an early one so the MYP option wouldn't work. It would make motorways so much more relaxing - and yes I know it would take 25 years to pay off in terms of improved fuel consumption.
Trevor
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I had mine converted a few years ago, using the Eurotuning route. I wouldn't be without it! It's the best way forward .... I just love the relaxed cruising that it offers : 70 MPH @ 2000 RPM. It acts like the "overdrive" of old! It would be worth checking if the're still in business and if so, the current cost of the kit? It was £1050 when i bought mine, but that was a few years ago ...... Maybe they have a few kits left and want to dispose of them at a knock-down price?

David
 
CKR are one option, Eurotuning another and then there's the options listed using VW parts. I do not know exactly how Tony was getting his gearboxes upgraded, but I am sure Germany had something to do with it. I just don't know where.

- Bret
 
Bruno said:
in a Lupo the 1.6 petrol FSI is a great engine apparently, that also has a well matched 6 speed gearbox according to my ex employee.
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I think that you are confusing the Lupo GTI and the Lupo FSI. The former was 1.6 but not FSI and the latter was 1.4 and was only produced as LHD; it was intended as a petrol version of the Lupo 3L with an automated gearbox and was capable of 5L/100km.

RAB
 
Chaps , I have just had a MYP gear box installed in to Basil , which is a ATL 90 TDI , the gear box prices has come down a little over the last 18-12 months , you can purchase one for around £400-600 from EBay

The works was undertaken by Wom autos , and it slotted in very well, removing the engine to gear box spacer ( 5mm) , and a one off bracket required making for the gear box , for the gear change cables, being the only items requiring thinking about

This is nearly a bolt on upgrade for later cars , the gear box that I purchased has a mechanical speedo drive, which is blanked off from the factory , so maybe suitable for the early cars ?

Basil is just about ready to return to the motorways of this fine land , so will update early December on the end results , however following a very quick " nip" up the road , I would say the results are good , the box offers a very short shift , the gear ratios are the same , and the 6th speed offering a more relaxed high speed element to the car for 60 plus speeds
 
oh this is getting into a thread about the Stag owners club :)
I also had a Stag, N reg, bought as a restoration project in 1988, did all the work myself, new wheel arch section, door bottoms and skins, boor repair sections, back to metal respray in original Java Green, new hood canvas SS exhaust etc.
Had it for 24 years and loved every min of it. Took it around France to the south coast three times and once I had sorted the radiator core it never once overheated. Oh the noise from the V8 OHC engine, I'm salivating now just thinking about it burp burp burp
It was also a car than handled quite well especially with its weight taken into account. The 30mpg was not great, but it ALWAYS put a smile on my face. Sometimes wish I still had it, but there comes time for a change

Thanks for awakening the memories again

Cheers,
Paul
 
Triumph Stag: I didn't get 'em, but my (now 85 year old) Mother loved 'em!
I saw a primed shell of one today at a bodywork shop in Hazel Grove, Stockport.

Andrew
 
Away with the fairys said:
Chaps , I have just had a MYP gear box installed in to Basil , which is a ATL 90 TDI , the gear box prices has come down a little over the last 18-12 months , you can purchase one for around £400-600 from EBay

The works was undertaken by Wom autos , and it slotted in very well, removing the engine to gear box spacer ( 5mm) , and a one off bracket required making for the gear box , for the gear change cables, being the only items requiring thinking about

This is nearly a bolt on upgrade for later cars , the gear box that I purchased has a mechanical speedo drive, which is blanked off from the factory , so maybe suitable for the early cars ?

Basil is just about ready to return to the motorways of this fine land , so will update early December on the end results , however following a very quick " nip" up the road , I would say the results are good , the box offers a very short shift , the gear ratios are the same , and the 6th speed offering a more relaxed high speed element to the car for 60 plus speeds
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What starter motor do you have fitted?
@BiggDogg and I both suffered starting issues with the MYP gearbox + ATL starter combo. Replacing the original starter with a CAYC version was the fix. (See BiggDogg's thread detailing the differences here.)
 
t42 said:
What starter motor do you have fitted?
@BiggDogg and I both suffered starting issues with the MYP gearbox + ATL starter combo. Replacing the original starter with a CAYC version was the fix. (See BiggDogg's thread detailing the differences here.)
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I read a couple of links on the starter motor meshing issues ....

This is very early days , the guys at WOM had a very good look over how the gear box fits to the engine , the ATL engine has a 5 mm spacer fitted to the “old gear box “ we have removed this spacer when adding the MYP box , so far nil nasty sounds and the starter appears to be fully engaging the ring gear , starter motor used was a standed ATL , fingers crossed this remains the case
 
Away with the fairys said:
I read a couple of links on the starter motor meshing issues ....

This is very early days , the guys at WOM had a very good look over how the gear box fits to the engine , the ATL engine has a 5 mm spacer fitted to the “old gear box “ we have removed this spacer when adding the MYP box , so far nil nasty sounds and the starter appears to be fully engaging the ring gear , starter motor used was a standed ATL , fingers crossed this remains the case
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Thanks for sharing. I believe BiggDogg has the spacer fitted while I do not. I haven't driven my A2 much since fitting the new starter so it's still early days for me too!
 
andrewparkeruk said:
@Away with the fairys would you mind telling us what the overall cost of the job was? I hope you will be pleased with your decision

Andrew
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Morning Andrew

This is a bit hard to say what the cost was , the engine and gear box need to come out of the car , due to the engine rebuild

While the car was in a million bits , it made sense to obtain a replacement MYP gear box , the bulk of the labour was already in place to get the engine out of the car and spilt the engine and gear box

The duel mass flywheel and clutch had been replaced around 30k miles ago , so was reused , after checking over , this saving around £400.00, finger crosses should last for the next 5 years .

I would suggest the following for “costs “: my MYP gear box , was a must have item , if I had waited a couple of weeks , could have saved about 100.00 , but the car was in the workshop , in bits and needed to get the gear box to WOM to fit the build time for the carv

2nd hand MYP gear box , including post and packing £550.00 ( e bay ) Gear selecter bracket £4.50
Clutch release bearing £26.00
Clutch plate bolts x 12 £7.50
Gear box oil , blue motion spec 2 lts £14.00
One off cable bracket £ 6.00

Having seen one done , I would suggest allowing a full day to swap over on a drive , 6 hours if you have lift , and fully equipped works shop

I have been for a short test drive , the car is still not fully complete, and would say it’s a very good fixed , the gear change may not be to all tastes , but I like the short throw

With regards to the overhaul cost , this formed part of a massive rebuild of the engine , including a new short block , recon turbo , Timmus all alloy intercooler , replacement condenser for the a/c injector wiring , glow plus , clylinder head skim ... endless nuts bolts and gaskets

I would suggest contacting WOM for the full cost , if paying a 3rd party for the works

This car will do around 600-1000 miles most weeks , at motorway speeds , so for me this was a easy decision to make , and looking forward to 70 mph , 2000rpm , 70 mpg !
 
citroen sm said:
Mine, ("Sally"), was a '75, white auto, original engine. Saw her at the Yeovil festival of transport many years ago and was horrified to see that the new owners had replaced it with a Triumph straight 6/manual box.
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that is sacrilege, the triumph 6 cyl engine is a peach of an engine (and what the Stag was designed to have in it) but the Triumph 3lt V8 is what is meant to be in the Stag, anything else is just wrong.
My Stag had the 3lt V8 and the 4 speed manual with overdrive on 3rd and 4th, making it a 6 speed box in the 70's, along with over head cam and independent rear suspension the Stag was just so far ahead of its time
 
depronman said:
oh this is getting into a thread about the Stag owners club :)
I also had a Stag, N reg, bought as a restoration project in 1988, did all the work myself, new wheel arch section, door bottoms and skins, boor repair sections, back to metal respray in original Java Green, new hood canvas SS exhaust etc.
Had it for 24 years and loved every min of it. Took it around France to the south coast three times and once I had sorted the radiator core it never once overheated. Oh the noise from the V8 OHC engine, I'm salivating now just thinking about it burp burp burp
It was also a car than handled quite well especially with its weight taken into account. The 30mpg was not great, but it ALWAYS put a smile on my face. Sometimes wish I still had it, but there comes time for a change

Thanks for awakening the memories again

Cheers,
Paul
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I'm also an ex Stag man, also taking mine down the Route Napoleon to the French Riviera. Except for cooking the brakes whilst coming down switch backs on the Alps it never missed a beat. Incidentally, managed to do very similar in a more modern V8 convertable this year in the Vosge.
 
Away with the fairys said:
Morning Andrew

This is a bit hard to say what the cost was , the engine and gear box need to come out of the car , due to the engine rebuild

While the car was in a million bits , it made sense to obtain a replacement MYP gear box , the bulk of the labour was already in place to get the engine out of the car and spilt the engine and gear box

The duel mass flywheel and clutch had been replaced around 30k miles ago , so was reused , after checking over , this saving around £400.00, finger crosses should last for the next 5 years .

I would suggest the following for “costs “: my MYP gear box , was a must have item , if I had waited a couple of weeks , could have saved about 100.00 , but the car was in the workshop , in bits and needed to get the gear box to WOM to fit the build time for the carv

2nd hand MYP gear box , including post and packing £550.00 ( e bay ) Gear selecter bracket £4.50
Clutch release bearing £26.00
Clutch plate bolts x 12 £7.50
Gear box oil , blue motion spec 2 lts £14.00
One off cable bracket £ 6.00

Having seen one done , I would suggest allowing a full day to swap over on a drive , 6 hours if you have lift , and fully equipped works shop

I have been for a short test drive , the car is still not fully complete, and would say it’s a very good fixed , the gear change may not be to all tastes , but I like the short throw

With regards to the overhaul cost , this formed part of a massive rebuild of the engine , including a new short block , recon turbo , Timmus all alloy intercooler , replacement condenser for the a/c injector wiring , glow plus , clylinder head skim ... endless nuts bolts and gaskets

I would suggest contacting WOM for the full cost , if paying a 3rd party for the works

This car will do around 600-1000 miles most weeks , at motorway speeds , so for me this was a easy decision to make , and looking forward to 70 mph , 2000rpm , 70 mpg !
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Thank you. Looking forward to hearing how pleased you are with the MYP once it is in normal use, Andrew
 
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