Brake pipes

ardeed

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Hi all. I have my A2 in for works to get it through the mot. The mechanic has said that he can get all the parts except the rear brake pipes which are corroded. I have searched on here and found some posts going back a few years. I am just wondering if anything has changed in past couple of years to make sourcing replacements any easier. The part numbers he is after are 8Z0611763Q and 8Z06117634Q, if that is any help. If he needs to get someone to make them up, what would be a reasonable cost?

Thanks in advance for any help rendered.

Ardeed
 
Hi Ardeed, yes they are easy enough to make yourself, a 10 metre roll of kunifer brake pipe costs around £15 from Amazon or £7 from AliExpress ... and a flaring tool will soon pay for itself if you go down the DIY route. A couple of practice flares and you'll be good to go.
Although I would have thought a mechanic should already be aware of how to make up a brake pipe 🤔

All the best ... Tom
 
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I just had some kunifer ones made up and it was a bit of a nightmare. I tried 2 garages and both made them with imperial flares and not DIN flares. Maybe you can get away with it as kunifer is softer so the flare may deform to match the DIN of the brake hoses/caliper/piston. A lot of garages refused to make them up as they were a safety item and they didn't want to be responsible. Probably as they didn't have the tools or the skills (with many old timers retiring since Covid).
 
Hi Ardeed, yes they are easy enough to make yourself, a 10 metre roll of kunifer brake pipe costs around £15 from Amazon or £7 from AliExpress ... and a flaring tool will soon pay for itself if you go down the DIY route. A couple of practice flares and you'll be good to go.
Although I would have thought a mechanic should already be aware of how to make up a brake pipe 🤔

All the best ... Tom
Hi Tom, thanks for responding. I wasn't aware it was that cheap for the materials but I do remember it was not a big deal for mechanics to make their own in the past. In his defence, my mechanic is pretty busy so I assume he thinks his time is better spent on replacing parts rather than making them up. I think I might make him the offer that, if he gets them off I will have a bash at bending them into shape, etc.

Thanks again for the info.
Ardeed
 
My rear brake pipes were replaced last month by Gary at B&F Motors. He made them up and fitted them prior to putting my A2 2002 petrol through its MOT. Didn't appear to be a problem for him as he works on lots if A2's.
 
Hi Tom, thanks for responding. I wasn't aware it was that cheap for the materials but I do remember it was not a big deal for mechanics to make their own in the past. In his defence, my mechanic is pretty busy so I assume he thinks his time is better spent on replacing parts rather than making them up. I think I might make him the offer that, if he gets them off I will have a bash at bending them into shape, etc.

Thanks again for the info.
Ardeed
Hi Ardeed ... I've learned lots from the members on this forum and they've given me the confidence to tackle any job that's come up so far ... if you're mechanically minded or handy with spanners it would probably surprise you how easy and inexpensive it is to do a service or maintenance yourself.
YouTube has videos that cover most tasks and for me the DIY approach is very satisfying 😁
 
Literally any garage can make up the brake pipes easily…..it’s a standard mot failure item. BUT……if it’s a tdi 90 or an fsi with rear discs, the pipes are unique and have one piece pipes with the flexibile pipes swaged on.
If this is the case you’ll need these, and then the pipe made up to fit the end, an easy job for a mechanic.
 
my local garage have made up brake pipes for both the A6 I had and all my A2s - and have the correct flaring inserts for all different standards that plug into the flaring tool to cope with the range of vehicles (basically anything from small city cars to large camper vans) that come in week in week out for work and MOTs. Apparently any qualified mechanic should be able to do it if they have the tools. Even flared some brake pipe I was had formed into a custom heating coil for a piece of lab equipment where I needed standard hydraulic pipe threaded ends to be able to link into water intake / output ports on a water bath - I bought two different types of cheap Ebay flaring tool and both were bloody useless. One had vices that were overly small for the pipe diameter (they were supposed to be ideal for), so I drilled them out using a good precision drill bit and then they wouldn't grip, and the other wasn't much better without any modification needed - the flare was unreliable at best and was different every time I tried (practising on a series of short pieces of cut off brake pipe).
 
Literally any garage can make up the brake pipes easily…..it’s a standard mot failure item. BUT……if it’s a tdi 90 or an fsi with rear discs, the pipes are unique and have one piece pipes with the flexibile pipes swaged on.
If this is the case you’ll need these, and then the pipe made up to fit the end, an easy job for a mechanic.
Hi Datsandrew, thanks for that info. Having checked back with the mechanic, that is exactly the issue, it's an FSI and the rubber section is the problem. I shall lay this information before him and see if that inspires him.

Many thanks again.
 
Hi Datsandrew, thanks for that info. Having checked back with the mechanic, that is exactly the issue, it's an FSI and the rubber section is the problem. I shall lay this information before him and see if that inspires him.

Many thanks again.
That makes more sense ... apologies for doubting your mechanic's ability 😬
 
Hi Datsandrew, thanks for that info. Having checked back with the mechanic, that is exactly the issue, it's an FSI and the rubber section is the problem. I shall lay this information before him and see if that inspires him.

Many thanks again.
Oh good, glad it helps, I had a feeling this was the case as if it were drums on the back is a completely run of the mill pipe.
With the pipes I posted up they will replace the flexible ends, and it has a female fitting that the standard male end will screw into. The only issue is securing the pipe to the rear suspension beam and for that I used a zip tie, and my MOT guy was fine with that.
 
Oh good, glad it helps, I had a feeling this was the case as if it were drums on the back is a completely run of the mill pipe.
With the pipes I posted up they will replace the flexible ends, and it has a female fitting that the standard male end will screw into. The only issue is securing the pipe to the rear suspension beam and for that I used a zip tie, and my MOT guy was fine with that.
Hi datsundrew.
My mechanic was resigning himself to returning all the other parts that he had already ordered, as everywhere he tried for the brake pipes was a dead end. He was advising me that without the brake pipes there was no chance of an MOT pass. Then I showed him your solution, and his little face lit up at the prospect of collecting on the big repair bill he had quoted me.

Pipes now ordered, flaring tool being dusted off and your tip about the zip tie solves another little head scratcher. You are truly a lifesaver. The A2's that is.

Your assistance is very much appreciated
 
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