E10 Fuel, Death nail to the 1.6??

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jon w

A2OC Donor
Just recieved an interesting, if worrying e-mail from a friend. He was looking at getting a 1.6FSI, but found this out.

"You may already be aware of this but there is a plan to replace
standard unleaded fuel with E10 (same octane but contains 10%
bioethanol) and several modern engines are incompatible with this fuel
(including the 1.6FSI used in the A2). This is primarily due to the
corrosive effects it has on some metals and damaging effects on
certain polymers. Initially both fuels will be available but it is
likely that standard unleaded will be phased out within a year or two
meaning that you’d be forced to run the car on the more expensive
superunleaded assuming of course that they don’t start putting
bioethanol in that too. As this fuel will be unsuitable for the
majority of classic cars, I’m sure standard unleaded will be available
from somewhere but no doubt hard to find and expensive.

I did try contacting Audi UK but they were unable to specify which
components would need to be replaced in order to make the FSI engines
(it affects the early 2.0FSI too) leading me to think it would be
fairly major.

The following link lists the cars that are not compatible with E10:
http://www.acea.be/images/uploads/files/20101123_E10_compatibility.pdf"

Has anyone seen this yet? Is a little concerning.
 
I understand that what it means you will need to use 97RON Super Unleaded, which won't be replaced by E10. My understanding is is the standard 95RON unleaded that will be replaced by the E10. From what I read on these pages, the FSi prefers Super Unleaded anyway...
 
My understanding was that 97,98,99RON Super unleadeds are to be replaced in 2013. Switching only byes a year....
 
Hi
Finally looks like I've found an September registered 2002 FSI to buy but then stumbled across this thread. The list specifies 2003 onwards so am I ok to proceed?
 
You are ok to proceed.
Read this from the SMMT (Society for Motor Manufacturers and Traders)

European Fuel Quality Directive

From 1 January 2011, the Fuel Quality Directive (2009/30/EC) enables the marketing of new fuels, in particular E10 unleaded petrol, which contains up to 10% ethanol. Fuel suppliers are not expected to market this fuel in the near future, however, in due course, E10 will be introduced and may become the main grade of unleaded petrol towards the latter half of the decade.

The European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA) has published a list of vehicles compatible with E10 petrol (regularly updated) on its website. This applies to fuels meeting the current EN228:2008 specification only; if you would like any further information please contact your manufacturer. A “protection grade” of unleaded fuel, which with no more than the current maximum 5% ethanol, will continue to be made available for vehicles that are incompatible with E10.

In due course, diesel will change to a mixture that contains up to 7% FAME (Fatty Acid Methyl Ester), more commonly known as ‘B7’.

All gas oil for use in all non-road mobile machines (NRMM) – known as ‘Red Diesel’ – must contain no more than 10 milligrams of sulphur per kilogram of fuel. This is a reduction of 99% (from the current 1000 mg/kg limit) and brings the sulphur level in the NRMM fuel to the same low level as already exists in the (white) diesel used by road vehicles.

You can also download an SMMT briefing about the changes to specifications of Non-road Gas Oil (Red Diesel) for more detailed information.
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