Gas Conversion?

Yeah, I think it's CNG. I didn't realise the conversions in the UK and Middle Europe are different to conversions made here. I think LPG conversions aren't allowed here and LPG is mainly used in manufacturing industry.
 
I'm sorry, English isn't my native language so I'm not quite sure we are on the same page here. I might be on the wrong topic... What I'm talking about is gas conversion where the car is fitted with system which runs on methane-based gas, either natural gas (maakaasu in Finnish) which is a fossil fuel or bio gas (biokaasu in Finnish) which is fully renewable and made from bio waste or manure. Both of these are available to refuel from the same stations here and they can be mixed with each other. Now that I researched a bit I don't think it's even a thing to convert your car to run on LPG in Finland.
I wish my Finnish were as good as your English :) Especially since I am dealing with Finnish colleagues on a regular basis, would be nice to say something decent in Finnish.
 
Yeah, I think it's CNG. I didn't realise the conversions in the UK and Middle Europe are different to conversions made here. I think LPG conversions aren't allowed here and LPG is mainly used in manufacturing industry.
There are CNG powered cars sold in the UK from new, by VW for one. You have to be careful which term you use. There's a large calorific value difference between CNG and LPG - they are not interchangeable. There aren't too many filling stations for both in the UK, about as many as for hydrogen, perhaps a few more. My nearest is about 80km away!

RAB
 
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I wish my Finnish were as good as your English :) Especially since I am dealing with Finnish colleagues on a regular basis, would be nice to say something decent in Finnish.
A bit offtopic but speaking Finnish as your native language kind of requires you to learn at least English well. Duolingo course in Finnish is really good, if you have interest learning some basics I strongly recommend it :)
 
A bit offtopic but speaking Finnish as your native language kind of requires you to learn at least English well. Duolingo course in Finnish is really good, if you have interest learning some basics I strongly recommend it :)
Same here, as Dutch is my native language. I will give Duolingo a go, I always like to learn a new language.
 
There are CNG powered cars sold in the UK from new, by VW for one. You have to be careful which term you use. There's a large calorific value difference between CNG and LPG - they are not interchangeable.

RAB
Yes, I realise that clearly now. Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse others. In Finnish we speak about gas cars (directly translated) since there isn't really LPG cars around.
 
Unfortunately, the English/British are usually lazy with regard to learning other languages because we can get by in most cases with English!

RAB
 
Well, since the topic only says "gas conversion", is it okay to just continue the discussion also about CNG conversion? Is it common in the UK and does some one in here have experience about CNG conversion? CNG conversion prices here start from about 2000€ so it's quite big investment to an almost 20-year-old car but in my current budget, total cost of about 5000€ isn't too bad if that gets you economical and quite ecological everyday car. Having studied design, I also really like the overall design of A2s and in Finnish winter conditions the rust problem is sorted out too.
 
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In general i am suprised that LPG converstions have not become more popular.
With Diesel now the devil and petrol under more scrutiny perhaps lpg will be the next big thing?

Has anybody ever lpg converted an A2?
Hi Howey, I've just reutilize the LPG system of my old Peugeot 807 and implanted it in a '00 A4 1.4 75HP that I just bought recently.
Injectors and vaporizer are OMVL SPA and I (the workshop) installed a bigger cylindrical tank, a STEP type SC.400 of 103 gross liters.
We are still calibrating the system, but LPG consumption is around 7.4 L/100km.
In Spain this is not normal. Here most of the conversions to LPG are taxi drivers' Prius and the stations are not many, even they are enough to travel with some planning.
 

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There aren't too many filling stations for both in the UK, about as many as for hydrogen, perhaps a few more. My nearest is about 80km away!
Wow, that's quite surprising, I think there's at least one CNG station in every decent sized town at least in the southern part in here. Hydrogen hasn't really taken any market share here yet so naturally there's no stations yet either.
 
Wow, that's quite surprising, I think there's at least one CNG station in every decent sized town at least in the southern part in here. Hydrogen hasn't really taken any market share here yet so naturally there's no stations yet either.
Common in europe some refer to as erdgas
VW ecofuel models available if you could locate a breaker it may be possible to swap the kit Up / Polo / Caddy /Golf
UK users tend to be fleet operators with either on site compressor for overnight refuel or banks of bottles for fast fill
 
Well, since the topic only says "gas conversion", is it okay to just continue the discussion also about CNG conversion? Is it common in the UK and does some one in here have experience about CNG conversion? CNG conversion prices here start from about 2000€ so it's quite big investment to an almost 20-year-old car but in my current budget, total cost of about 5000€ isn't too bad if that gets you economical and quite ecological everyday car. Having studied design, I also really like the overall design of A2s and in Finnish winter conditions the rust problem is sorted out too.
CNG is compressed natural gas, which implies natural gas from the ground, not biogas. But my electricity/gas supplier does provide biogas for the gas network in the UK, so there might some! Ecological? Not really because the CO2 emissions are usually about same as for petrol. Cheaper? Maybe but that means it's effectively subsidised.

RAB
 
Well yes, the correct term is Biomethane CNG hybrid, I think? There's quite a lot of research available on the topic, but there's also a lot of information coming from gas supplier companies which have some greenwash included. This link might help understanding what I'm trying refer to talking about more ecological power. www.ctc-n.org/technologies/biomethane-cng-hybrid-fuel
 
Hi Howey, I've just reutilize the LPG system of my old Peugeot 807 and implanted it in a '00 A4 1.4 75HP that I just bought recently.
Injectors and vaporizer are OMVL SPA and I (the workshop) installed a bigger cylindrical tank, a STEP type SC.400 of 103 gross liters.
We are still calibrating the system, but LPG consumption is around 7.4 L/100km.
In Spain this is not normal. Here most of the conversions to LPG are taxi drivers' Prius and the stations are not many, even they are enough to travel with some planning.
That tank is much more like it! I'm impressed and that's just what I'd be fitting! However, it just CAN'T be 106 litres! I fitted an 85 litre tank into a huge boot on an earlier car I owned (a Mercedes 190) I wonder if you've got the tank code and make, please? I really would be amazed if it's even greater than 60 litres? Oh, just one more thing ...... in the U.K. that installation would not comply because of the wiring to the tank. Here it has to be fully shrouded and protected ..... SORRY! You HAVE given the tank details! :oops:

David
 
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