got it, 1.2 TDI

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Hi All,

Collected my ecomobile yesterday and made the 900 km trip home before nightfall. I got a 2001 A2 in a dark blue/almost black colour. Looks cool now, 'fraid it may be a lot less cool in summer. Low mileage with plenty of dents and scratches would suggest that its been used as city transport for the first part of its life. Only noteworthy non-standard feature is the tyres at 165/70R14.

This is my first automatic, past experience was only a test drive in a smart roadster which convinced me that fully auto and sports car are two concepts that don't mix. For the A2, I forgot to use only-one-foot when setting off and created a right spectacle for passers-by as I left the garage. Once on the road, I must admit that I do like this system. Taking a ticket/paying for the autoroutes is a lot less bother when the car manages the clutch. On the mountain roads, there is a distinct lack of progress compared to our other cars, but I blame this on the limited power of the engine rather than sluggush or wrong gear selection.

Impressed with how quiet the car is at speed and how good the concert CD player is. Liked the brakes too. Car feels solid, not at all like the 1980 fiat panda that I was imaging really.

To test the ultra low fuel use, I left the car in eco, lets call that "snail" mode from now on, for the entire journey. It returned more than 60 mpg, despite leaden foot driving and a journey taking me initially over a mountain range and then the remainder was motorway. Snail mode does not mix too well with the French 130 kmh autoroutes. On inclines my progress fell to that of mid-size lorries (105 kmh), and upset a few faster vehicles that had to slow down for me. Stamping down (forcing lower gears) failed to push the speed higher. On down hill stretches, more than 140 kph will show on the speedo, but even then my GPS said top speed was only 133 kmh. Well, at least I won't be triggering the motorway speed cameras with this car. So overall, a bit frustrating for European motorway trips, but quite tolerable for the daily commute.

Some questions for anyone still reading...
Is the 1.2 TDI under-tyred as standard, i.e. do owners find that they lack grip in the dry? Opinions on the tyre fitment, 165/70 instead of 145/80 would be welcome.
What speed will a 1.2 TDI reach easily on a motorway?

GA
 
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Hey and congrats!! I can identify with the sluggish performance, but you get used to it ;)

Once you learn how to drive it in eco mode, it will reach much higher than that 60mpg figure you quoted.

The tires are low resistance and therefore don't have the most grip in the world, you could get wider tires but then it would decrease the fuel efficiency a little (if that matters to you).

overall though I think it is a very pleseant car to drive, and if you turn eco mode off for a little more performance, it does ok and still get's good gas mileage.

my tdi cruises comfortably at 120-130kmh and is capable at reaching the listed 167kmh (100mph) speed that is quoted.

I don't know if I would think it was a city car, it was just driven by a hispanic :D if you've driven in hispanic countries you will know what I mean ;) (bump to pass)

Kevin
 
I would go for the 145/80R14 B381s every time - they cost £40 each and will definitely affect your mpg and top speed.

Also check that turbo - the 1.2 is not slower in real world driving than the 1.4 TDi except the 90PS version.

I have driven both and am glad I took the unusual route to A2 owenership.

Also it is NOT a true auto - it is a manual 5 speed gearbox with hydraulic/electric clutch control.

Best performance is in manual mode. Even ECO is not always best option at 30 mph. But generally works very well. Never go down steep hills in ECO mode though!
 
I would go for the 145/80R14 B381s every time - they cost £40 each and will definitely affect your mpg and top speed.

Thanks for the tip! Will certainly get B381s next year! Winter tyres have to be my first purchase. Found suppliers for conti winter contact and bridgestone blizzak in 145/80. Probably go for the blizzaks for their price (46 Euros, plus fitting).
 
You may have to be quick! Bridgestone no longer make B381's for the Lupo 3L; they still supply them for the A2 1.2 but maybe for not much longer. Why stop making them for a model of which there were about 28,000 and continue to make them for another which only numbered about 6,000? I am trying to get info from Bridgestone.

RAB
 
The VW Lupo 3L tyre is 155/65 R14 size - I drove it on a A2 for some time but it's definitely too small (-6%).
I have found in a german online tyre shop that the 145/80 R 14 B381 "will be available in July 2008".
In the moment it seems to be very difficult to get the original tyre. This is also a reason why I have 165/70 R14 summer tyre on my car. Brand Semperit Comfort Life. It is much cheaper (-25%) and lasts longer, but I have 8% more fuel consumption/less milage.
Regards
Markus
 
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