Hello everyone, in need of expert advice!!

It will depend on the structure I’m sure but I know some manufacturers who produced a cabin ‘shell’ purposefully designed those surrounding areas with limited crumple zones so that any impacts in those areas were transmitted into the chassis under the cabin area - allowing more deformation there to reduce strain on the occupants.

Smart cars particularly used this design - the wheels and subframe folded inwards like a crushed beer can to keep the metal roll cage from experiencing as much direct stress from a side or rear impact.

Was this maybe used in the Audi space frames?


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I don't have many right now and won't have time to search until this evening at the earliest. But a selection:
One story is of a woman driving a 1.2 and putting the front wheel into the verge. The fire brigade kept asking where the driver was as she walked away after a multiple roll.
Another is of Bedalein on the German forum being hit from behind with serious speed. The pics will be on the forum, I think, but I don't know where. The rear bumper was pushed in significantly and the boot was crumpled, but the rear seats are untouched. I believe the crash speed was somewhere around 60km/h.
Some stuff I could find with a couple of searches:
This is the famous gorge: https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/to...bilderberichte/?do=findComment&comment=279360
More pics and descriptions of different accidents here: https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/topic/26229-tod-unseres-geliebten-a2-tdi/
The first of those is at unknown speed, estimated to be over 60km/h, unbraked. Driver "felt a bump"; doors open fine.
This one: https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/to...liebten-a2-tdi/?do=findComment&comment=466218 - at 50km/h straight into a tree. Doors open, no issues.

- Bret
 
@bretti_kivi - I always appreciate you being a pivot into the German forum - I never saw the threads you posted from there before. At the same time both sobering but also reassuring.
 
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I don't have many right now and won't have time to search until this evening at the earliest. But a selection:
One story is of a woman driving a 1.2 and putting the front wheel into the verge. The fire brigade kept asking where the driver was as she walked away after a multiple roll.
Another is of Bedalein on the German forum being hit from behind with serious speed. The pics will be on the forum, I think, but I don't know where. The rear bumper was pushed in significantly and the boot was crumpled, but the rear seats are untouched. I believe the crash speed was somewhere around 60km/h.
Some stuff I could find with a couple of searches:
This is the famous gorge: https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/to...bilderberichte/?do=findComment&comment=279360
More pics and descriptions of different accidents here: https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/topic/26229-tod-unseres-geliebten-a2-tdi/
The first of those is at unknown speed, estimated to be over 60km/h, unbraked. Driver "felt a bump"; doors open fine.
This one: https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/to...liebten-a2-tdi/?do=findComment&comment=466218 - at 50km/h straight into a tree. Doors open, no issues.

- Bret
God this is seriously impressive, in a morbid way. But very reassuring. It’s always a worry when going with a ‘lightweight’ Car that it’ll just crumple upon impact. Thank you
 
Holger's Thread: https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/topic/21496-nach-5-12-jahren-das-ende/

The accident: wheel into the verge at 120km/h, up the crash barrier, offside lifted, rolled, right-rear-corner at the fuel cap smacked a wildlife fence, slid into a large sign and came to a stop on its roof in the direction of travel.
Driver out with minor cuts, concussion and bruising from the seatbelt.

Beda's story is being hit from behind with a 5-series at over 70km/h; the front seat was ripped from its anchors (still happy about your mods for TT seats?), the battery is tipped with 30 degrees and the rear of the car is pushed in over 30cm. I've seen the pics, 70 is a very conservative estimate and it was probably closer to 100.

- Bret
 
Ok one last question, we’re looking at models with the open sky sun roof. Is the blind mechanical & if so, does it have a manual override? So if/ when it breaks the blind could at least be opened & closed manually? And assuming it were to break, are they easily fixable?
 
back in the day we had a 2 door (they all were) MG Metro.. and loaded all 3 of our young children in the back and drove down to the South of France on holiday.....I’m sure my A2 would be more comfortable ?
Having been a child, crammed into the back of one of those, you’re absolutely correct! ?
 
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