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When I had my gear oil changed a few years back I was advised (plus researched on here) that the capacity for my ATL gearbox was 1.7 litres. Used VW Bluemotion oil. Also as per advice on here. Can't see there being a huge difference in capacity across the range. You'll be fine Louis. ?
A2 Louis
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Thanks bud
A2 Louis
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The gear box fill hole or around that area I know something it definitely gearbox fluid
A2 Louis
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To be honest I can’t put it back on the ramps now as I have no one to watch me plus I don’t want to use it as it’s lost a lot of fluid
I’d probably say I’ve cracked the casing by me tightening it too much
To be honest I think I’m going to just sell her it will be sad to see her go but I’m only 16 and can’t afford a new gearbox
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A2 Louis
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To be honest I think the gear box will be empty by then ?
depronman
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as the fill plug is a 'fill and level' plug, if its parked on level ground and leaking then it is OVER FULL
The plug has a tapered thread so should seal as it is tightened up, suggest that you take out the plug and clean it and inspect the casing, I've never seen one crack as its thick aluminium around the level plug, but if someone had over tightened it then it could have cracked it.
A way to fashion a seal would be to clean both the casing and the plug, then wrap about 20 turns of plumbers ptfe tape around the plug, then wind it back in. The ptfe fills the gap in the threads and makes a seal
I much prefer the steel 17mm Hex plugs to the latter style aluminium star plugs
The plug has a tapered thread so should seal as it is tightened up, suggest that you take out the plug and clean it and inspect the casing, I've never seen one crack as its thick aluminium around the level plug, but if someone had over tightened it then it could have cracked it.
A way to fashion a seal would be to clean both the casing and the plug, then wrap about 20 turns of plumbers ptfe tape around the plug, then wind it back in. The ptfe fills the gap in the threads and makes a seal
I much prefer the steel 17mm Hex plugs to the latter style aluminium star plugs
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Yes i agree if leaking on level ground its over full or,perish the thought casing has been damaged by over tightness.Being a plumber myself i would use PTFE thread seal tape to seal the plug in place using a steel hex plug.If you need ether PTFE tape and or a steel plug louis i will post them out to you free of charge
A2 Louis
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Update everyone I’ve just put her up on the ramps and the box is bone dry I pulled the fill plug out to see if the oil had gone down and it’s not As soon as I undone the fill plug oil started to trickle out then I tightened it back up again and it’s still dry
I had the aircon on most of the day so I think that gave a little water off and then started dripping lol
I had gearbox oil on my hand so when I touched the water and I smelled my finger it smelt of gearbox oil but after I washed my hands it didn’t smell of anything so it’s just water thank god
My grandfather made a good point he said 5 hours ago you spilt gear box oil there and it’s not dried up. Then he said the leak from the car is not oil it’s water as it’s dried up within 5 minutes ?
Stupid me
Just to let everyone know if it’s a hot day and your doing your gearbox oil and you have the aircon on after and you see abit of a leak and you think it’s oil like me make sure you clean your hands before touching the water so at least you don’t smell gearbox oil hahaha ?
As soon as I undone the fill plug oil started to trickle out then I tightened it back up again and it’s still dryI had the aircon on most of the day so I think that gave a little water off and then started dripping lol
I had gearbox oil on my hand so when I touched the water and I smelled my finger it smelt of gearbox oil but after I washed my hands it didn’t smell of anything so it’s just water thank god
My grandfather made a good point he said 5 hours ago you spilt gear box oil there and it’s not dried up. Then he said the leak from the car is not oil it’s water as it’s dried up within 5 minutes ?
Stupid me
Just to let everyone know if it’s a hot day and your doing your gearbox oil and you have the aircon on after and you see abit of a leak and you think it’s oil like me make sure you clean your hands before touching the water so at least you don’t smell gearbox oil hahaha ?
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Well......Pleased your sorted after all that.Sounds like you have done the job right.Go for that drive tomorrow and enjoy itUpdate everyone I’ve just put her up on the ramps and the box is bone dry I pulled the fill plug out to see if the oil had gone down and it’s not
I had the aircon on most of the day so I think that gave a little water off and then started dripping lol
I had gearbox oil on my hand so when I touched the water and I smelled my finger it smelt of gearbox oil but after I washed my hands it didn’t smell of anything so it’s just water thank god
My grandfather made a good point he said 5 hours ago you spilt gear box oil there and it’s not dried up. Then he said the leak from the car is not oil it’s water as it’s dried up within 5 minutes ?
Stupid me
Just to let everyone know if it’s a hot day and your doing your gearbox oil and you have the aircon on after and you see abit of a leak and you think it’s oil like me make sure you clean your hands before touching the water so at least you don’t smell gearbox oil hahaha ?
A2 Louis
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Don’t worry Pete I will
Be better when I have the fog lights installed
I have to say the gearbox is really smooth compared to how it was
In the next 5 months I’m getting VW/Audi specialists to replace the gearbox oil again so then I know it’s all nice and clean
I know something it will save me ripping my hands apart lol
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Your learning all the time louis i like that......The gear box oil will be fine now dont waste time having it changed again.Your hands will get tougher over time,i remember when i first started work,was always cutting my hands as there to soft,now after years of work there like leather. ha.Yes i bit more practice with those fog lights you have to install,leave the wiring to tom thoughDon’t worry Pete I will
Be better when I have the fog lights installed
I have to say the gearbox is really smooth compared to how it was
In the next 5 months I’m getting VW/Audi specialists to replace the gearbox oil again so then I know it’s all nice and clean
I know something it will save me ripping my hands apart lol
depronman
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well this does remind me of an incident some 30 years ago.
A good mate of mine had a Triumph Stag, 3litre V8 original engine. I can't quite remember why he originally took the heads off, but after the rebuild he was in such a rush to try out the car he didn't put the airbox back in place, this left 6 nuts and spring washers finger tight on the air trumpets that connected the carbs to the airbox. Well on the test drive one of the nuts came loose and got stuck in the carb (lucky) but the spring washer made it into the 8th cylinder, making a right mess.
So RH head off again, cleaned up the head and top of No8 piston and rebuilt it. It had very bad crank case blow back. I suggested that the spring washer hammering against the piston crown near the edges had nipped a piston ring, causing a lack of compression on that cylinder and crank case pressure. This was confirmed with a compression tester. So sump off, head of again and No 8 piston out, new piston and rings, plus new rings on the other pistons, glaze buster on bores and rebuilt again. This time all fully assembled, off he went for a test drive, all went well, and car was parked on his dads drive, pointing nose down at about 20 deg incline.
In her went for a brew or beer, he then went back to the car only to see a load of oil under the car. He rang me distraught, this Stag had taken him to the brink.
I turned up 10 mins latter and noticed the oil was also at the back of the car, lifter the boot lid only to find a nearly empty gallon can of engine oil had fallen over and the top had come off, emptied itself into the boot, ran to where the spare wheel / fuel tank was and then found its way out through a rubber bung hole.
We both went to the pub after this and got well and truly bladdered - that car nearly tipped my mate over the edge and the final straw was a can of oil leaking onto the floor - nothing wrong with the engine repair at all.
Always double and triple check check before jumping to a conclusion
Its something which comes more naturally to you with age and experience, but hats off to you for having a go, so many kids today are afraid to get there hands dirty.
A good mate of mine had a Triumph Stag, 3litre V8 original engine. I can't quite remember why he originally took the heads off, but after the rebuild he was in such a rush to try out the car he didn't put the airbox back in place, this left 6 nuts and spring washers finger tight on the air trumpets that connected the carbs to the airbox. Well on the test drive one of the nuts came loose and got stuck in the carb (lucky) but the spring washer made it into the 8th cylinder, making a right mess.
So RH head off again, cleaned up the head and top of No8 piston and rebuilt it. It had very bad crank case blow back. I suggested that the spring washer hammering against the piston crown near the edges had nipped a piston ring, causing a lack of compression on that cylinder and crank case pressure. This was confirmed with a compression tester. So sump off, head of again and No 8 piston out, new piston and rings, plus new rings on the other pistons, glaze buster on bores and rebuilt again. This time all fully assembled, off he went for a test drive, all went well, and car was parked on his dads drive, pointing nose down at about 20 deg incline.
In her went for a brew or beer, he then went back to the car only to see a load of oil under the car. He rang me distraught, this Stag had taken him to the brink.
I turned up 10 mins latter and noticed the oil was also at the back of the car, lifter the boot lid only to find a nearly empty gallon can of engine oil had fallen over and the top had come off, emptied itself into the boot, ran to where the spare wheel / fuel tank was and then found its way out through a rubber bung hole.
We both went to the pub after this and got well and truly bladdered - that car nearly tipped my mate over the edge and the final straw was a can of oil leaking onto the floor - nothing wrong with the engine repair at all.
Always double and triple check check before jumping to a conclusion
Its something which comes more naturally to you with age and experience, but hats off to you for having a go, so many kids today are afraid to get there hands dirty.