Keys locked in car!

DJ 190

A2OC Donor
Went out today for a bicycle ride with my Lady, Yanny. After which we went for something to eat, so Yanny said "Let me have the keys and I'll wait for you in the A2 while you pay the bill" Fine, I thought but when I went outside I found her outside of the car with the keys visible on the rear seat but the doors all locked! Apparently she'd been distracted by her mobile ringing on the rear seat, put the keys down next to it, shut the rear door and then the car locked itself! I wouldn't mind but she's warned me COUNTLESS times to NOT do that! Ironic, eh? Well she's a member of "Green Flag" but my car isn't covered because of its age. They were talking of hundreds of £'s to do anything. So the Manager of the Public house that we had just eaten said that he'll bring a hammer and break the small window next to the A-pillar and in front of the passenger door. I was more inclined to destroy the rear-light cluster and reach in to the keys that way. So he did break that window .... glass everywhere and he cut himself (but not badly) Here I am, back home, and asking for your help. Does anyone have that small window (passenger side) so that I can get my car restored and sealed from the weather? The other question I'd like to put to you is how exactly is that window re-fitted? I'm sure that this helpful and friendly club are going to contribute and make me feel better. It's not the end of the World, eh?

David
 

damadgeruk

A2OC Donor
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news though you have picked the wrong window, it's bonded and much more difficult to replace than one of the winding windows (wife did the same).
I use Auto Aid, they have no age limit and cover husband and wife for any vehicle they are travelling in.
 

johnyfartbox

A2OC Donor
And why would it lock itself, once unlocked and a door has been opened it should stay unlocked unless that only happens when the front doors are opened.
But yes, wrong window.
 

Robin_Cox

Member
microswitch dead? My rear right door on my main A2 isn't detected as open by the alarm system when I unlock it - 30 seconds after I use the key the lock system re-arms and doors lock even if that door is open.

And yes, I concur with post 2 above - there are many posts here that make it quite clear that breaking a wee bonded window is a bad idea compared to the moving ones - the barman is a well-intentioned numpty. My gut instinct would be to go for one of the rear passenger winding windows (probably driver side), simply because it would impact less on driving subsequently for all-round visibility reasons at junctions whether open or covered and easier to repair with an @A2Steve replacement part.
 
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DJ 190

A2OC Donor
it's bonded and much more difficult to replace
I use Auto Aid, they have no age limit and cover husband and wife for any vehicle they are travelling in.
Here's an example from Ebay :https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A2-...del:A2&hash=item1f15f2a528:g:s-wAAOSwRwFfU9DF
Maybe the complete glass + surround (bonded, as you're saying) are fitted as a unit?
Thanks for recommending "Auto Aid" .... I'll check that out! I was not happy at all with "Green Flag", that's for sure!

David
 

audifan

A2OC Donor
Ouch... hind sight is wonderful, but one of the worst windows to pick. I would think for the same reason finding a second hand windows will be difficult. I do recall someone on here was a car window fitter and was on the electrically heated windscreen thread. Perhaps they can tell you where to obtain one or may have access to one themselves. Sorry could not find out their "name". I would go for that one on ebay and worry about getting it fitted once in your possession.

 

audifan

A2OC Donor
Silly question now could you not have gone home for spare key? Even a taxi may have been cheaper long term. Make sure you get all the glass out of the dash, last thing you want is glass fragments blowing into your eyes while driving with the blower on max. Claim your car was vandalised - NO ONLY JOKING NOT SUGGESTING AN INSURANCE FRAUD HERE.
The glass is definitely bonded in, so great care is needed when removing one if it is to be refitted, not really a DIY job.
 
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kp 115

A2OC Donor
Went out today for a bicycle ride with my Lady, Yanny. After which we went for something to eat, so Yanny said "Let me have the keys and I'll wait for you in the A2 while you pay the bill" Fine, I thought but when I went outside I found her outside of the car with the keys visible on the rear seat but the doors all locked! Apparently she'd been distracted by her mobile ringing on the rear seat, put the keys down next to it, shut the rear door and then the car locked itself! I wouldn't mind but she's warned me COUNTLESS times to NOT do that! Ironic, eh? Well she's a member of "Green Flag" but my car isn't covered because of its age. They were talking of hundreds of £'s to do anything. So the Manager of the Public house that we had just eaten said that he'll bring a hammer and break the small window next to the A-pillar and in front of the passenger door. I was more inclined to destroy the rear-light cluster and reach in to the keys that way. So he did break that window .... glass everywhere and he cut himself (but not badly) Here I am, back home, and asking for your help. Does anyone have that small window (passenger side) so that I can get my car restored and sealed from the weather? The other question I'd like to put to you is how exactly is that window re-fitted? I'm sure that this helpful and friendly club are going to contribute and make me feel better. It's not the end of the World, eh?

David
I would have thought it was bonded
 

Jeetesh

Member
Quick question on Green Flag...... your car isn’t covered?

I have green flag as an add-on to my insurance and they know exactly what the age of my car is and the Green Flag document details the car and its registration.

I’d be speaking to Green Flag again to check this.
 

jogon

Member
The doors on most cars with remote central locking will self lock unless the driver's door is opened within so many seconds. Even once the drivers door is closed from after opening it should not self lock unless there is a fault somewhere to cause a glitch.

Also that window is bonded so will be harder to replace without the necessary glue and equipment. Price of glass alone will probably be more expensive than the opening windows due to the trim that surrounds it and it possibly being a rarer window with limited manufacture and supply. Can you not claim on the windscreen cover of your insurance and you will just pay the excess?
 

Jeetesh

Member
Green flags Q&As here does look like a 16 year old age limit on cars for Personal Cover.

Very odd and something I’ll check with them as it’s a specific single car breakdown policy for just my A2 on a stand-alone insurance policy too (my merc is on a separate policy)
 

bretti_kivi

Member
the car will re-lock itself if the driver's door isn't opened. Octavia does the same thing. To stop accidental unlocking from pockets.

I've got into the habit of leaving the driver's door ajar if I need to, preferably with the key directly on the dash. I'm waiting for my daughter to lock herself out of the A2 at some point..

- Bret
 

audifan

A2OC Donor
On my car the car will auto relock if NONE of the doors are opened nor the hatch opened. So if you open a door that has a faulty door open microswitch the car will relock in about 30 seconds. Need to check all doors and tailgate register as open on the dis and switch on interior lights.
 

DJ 190

A2OC Donor
Silly question now could you not have gone home for spare key? Even a taxi may have been cheaper long term.
No, the only house key we had with us was also locked in the car. (We talked about that on the way back and agreed that we really should have a secret, emergency key somewhere on the premises) .......
Quick question on Green Flag...... your car isn’t covered?
Yes, it was, together with Yanny's car. However they decided to claim that because of its age, it now wasn't covered. That's where the talk went to £150 call-out, locksmith, towage to home .....hundreds of £'s!

Also that window is bonded so will be harder to replace without the necessary glue and equipment.
If you look at this Ebay listing, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A2-NS-Left-Front-Quarter-Triangle-window-Glass/133512209704?fits=Car+Make:Audi|Model:A2&hash=item1f15f2a528:g:s-wAAOSwRwFfU9DF It shows what looks like a complete assembly. So that makes me think that the Ebay lister has been able to successfully and without damage remove that component. So I would assume that I too should be able to firstly remove what remains of the smashed window on my A2 and to then re-fit the window as shown in the Ebay listing? Would you agree with that? I am not too sure that any special bonding or adhesive will be required?

So that is what I'm hoping an A2OC member might have known about. (Maybe A2Steve or Clackers?) I would have also thought that thieves might have targeted this very window when obtaining entry to a car?
I'd like to thank you all for your prompt response and help!

David
 
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Weetank2

Member
Would require much patience to remove bonded glass
Tried and failed before
Windscreen fitters will have the correct adhesive
Or ECP do Normfest kit if u fancy diy about £25
 

A2Steve

A2OC Donor
Best to buy the eBay just and get a local glass fitter to remove your old one before refitting. It’s a pig of a job DIY and will be much easier for a professional with a cutting wire.
 

RAB

Technical Specialist 1.2 TDI
the car will re-lock itself if the driver's door isn't opened. Octavia does the same thing. To stop accidental unlocking from pockets.
It depends on the security options selected. You can change them with VCDS. My A2 never locks itself.

I am ex-Green Flag and left because of their age limits. GEM do not have such limits.

RAB
 

PlasticMac

Member
It depends on the security options selected. You can change them with VCDS. My A2 never locks itself.

I am ex-Green Flag and left because of their age limits. GEM do not have such limits.

RAB
@RAB I'm with Green Flag, both cars (TT & A2). Last time I renewed (June) the A2 would be over 15 years old before the new insurance year ended. That meant I had to cover both cars, rather than just one, plus any car (under 15 years old) I was in. Is the the "age" issue you mention?
Mac.
 

RAB

Technical Specialist 1.2 TDI
Yes, GEM cover all cars with one fee (even my 74 year-old MG), no age limit. I can also add my wife for a small fee.

RAB
 
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