A2Steve
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Where's the 7th person? Is that why the person in the passenger front is looking so happy?
Where's the 7th person? Is that why the person in the passenger front is looking so happy?
enzo
Member
found some info relevant to my curiositys so will just c&p in this post..
038 253 019 A or C (GT1749 V) 115PD/100PD/110VE turbo
VNT-15 and GT1749V malleissa 33,5 mm intake and 36,5 mm flight
038 253 016 F (GT1749 Va) 130PD turbo
Garrett GT1749VA, 35 mm intake and 36,5 mm flight
038 253 016 G (GT1749 Vb) 150PD turbo
Garrett GT1749VB, 37 mm intake and 38,3 mm flight
03G 257 019 V395 (GT1749 VM) 170bhp turbo :mrgreen:
2006 Euro TDI Golf
the main difference is the shaft and compressor wheel specs.
turbos fitted to PD's
Garrett designated turbos--------- intake Bore-------------- Exhaust Bore
GT 1749 V(110/115) ------------------1.326" -------------------1.441"
GT 1749 VA(130)-----------------------1.390"--------------------1.467"
GT 1749 VB(150) ----------------------1.459" -------------------1.505
Tip height
GT1749V = 4mm
GT1749VA = 3,7mm
GT1749VB = 4mm
So the VA has a slighly bigger wheel on the compressor side as compared to the vnt15. The VB has both a bigger compressor and exhaust wheel so it should flow better on the exhaust side compared to the VA? The VA should spool a little faster than the VB, and maybe on par with the oem VNT15 due to the reduced tip hight??
iv got a va, but would love to try both va and vb on an ATL just to see what the differences are like
038 253 019 A or C (GT1749 V) 115PD/100PD/110VE turbo
VNT-15 and GT1749V malleissa 33,5 mm intake and 36,5 mm flight
038 253 016 F (GT1749 Va) 130PD turbo
Garrett GT1749VA, 35 mm intake and 36,5 mm flight
038 253 016 G (GT1749 Vb) 150PD turbo
Garrett GT1749VB, 37 mm intake and 38,3 mm flight
03G 257 019 V395 (GT1749 VM) 170bhp turbo :mrgreen:
2006 Euro TDI Golf
the main difference is the shaft and compressor wheel specs.
turbos fitted to PD's
Garrett designated turbos--------- intake Bore-------------- Exhaust Bore
GT 1749 V(110/115) ------------------1.326" -------------------1.441"
GT 1749 VA(130)-----------------------1.390"--------------------1.467"
GT 1749 VB(150) ----------------------1.459" -------------------1.505
Tip height
GT1749V = 4mm
GT1749VA = 3,7mm
GT1749VB = 4mm
So the VA has a slighly bigger wheel on the compressor side as compared to the vnt15. The VB has both a bigger compressor and exhaust wheel so it should flow better on the exhaust side compared to the VA? The VA should spool a little faster than the VB, and maybe on par with the oem VNT15 due to the reduced tip hight??
iv got a va, but would love to try both va and vb on an ATL just to see what the differences are like
enzo
Member
Another 18kilos approximately shaved off with the pepper pots + tires
Went for 195/50/15 temporarily as I had tires just sitting there
Really want 165/45/15s
Just prepping for a single mass flywheel and clutch kit as my dmf is definitely on its last legs .
Think I'm Gona use the larger 228mm setup with a g60flywheel
Just trying to figure out if it would fit in the current bell housing, but info is non existent out there after serching,
Does anyone know what type of gearbox comes mated to an ATL?? Is it an 02J case??
Went for 195/50/15 temporarily as I had tires just sitting there
Really want 165/45/15s
Just prepping for a single mass flywheel and clutch kit as my dmf is definitely on its last legs .
Think I'm Gona use the larger 228mm setup with a g60flywheel
Just trying to figure out if it would fit in the current bell housing, but info is non existent out there after serching,
Does anyone know what type of gearbox comes mated to an ATL?? Is it an 02J case??
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Bala_de_plata
Member
Nice.
One of the lightest 15" rims is the Rays Super ECO 15x6 ET45 5x100: 4,1 kg. I don't know if you could get an approval to use them in the UK. If not, just forget it;-)
13,3 kg is good enough;-)
I asked about the DMF because I have high vibrations due to a SuperPro silent block. Feels like sitting in a shaker
One of the lightest 15" rims is the Rays Super ECO 15x6 ET45 5x100: 4,1 kg. I don't know if you could get an approval to use them in the UK. If not, just forget it;-)
13,3 kg is good enough;-)
I asked about the DMF because I have high vibrations due to a SuperPro silent block. Feels like sitting in a shaker
enzo
Member
minted.. interestingly enough on my findings i found that the mk1 Citoren c5 comes with aluminium steel wheels that weigh 4.6 kilos each.. which is really good for a steely... only problem is though its 5x108
yea just taking her for a drive on the new wheels and you can feel the unsprung weight difference
got a wee problem.. im wanting to delete the aircon pump, pipework, aircon rad etc..
is it just a simple case of using a smaller belt?? if so which belt size do i go for? also does the 3l 1.2tdi have aircon??n if not, is that the belt id use?
yea just taking her for a drive on the new wheels and you can feel the unsprung weight difference
got a wee problem.. im wanting to delete the aircon pump, pipework, aircon rad etc..
is it just a simple case of using a smaller belt?? if so which belt size do i go for? also does the 3l 1.2tdi have aircon??n if not, is that the belt id use?
Birchall
Dick Chown Award 2016
Unfortunately not.
Nothing is impossible but you need to consider this change as not feasible, especially since the floor mountings are not there and they have to hold a trememndous force from potentially three people hurtling forward at great speed in a crash.
So please don't attempt this conversion.
The floor pans are, for some reason, (best known to Audi designers) VERY different)
Back in my early A2 ownership I looked at this swap and the front mounts can be swapped but the floor mounts are specifically located with strengthening and so it is not just a drill and bolt job.
The only feasible solution is to swap / part exchange you vehicle for one with three seats.
Steve B
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enzo
Member
Thanks Cammy,
I'm taking the photo there's also another girl in the photo u can't see.
Back to this a2 I'm totally smitten with it,
It's just a shame it looks so ****,
Every time I walk away or to it I'm never struck by its beauty
But there in lies it's charm as a q car, people never expect it to be that quick,
I'm also impressed by the handling and how flat it corners on what must be shagged suspension .
The power delivery is amanse for a roads just leave it in 5th and use the Torque
Can't wait to map it
On dong my searches it turns out the turbo on my ATL is a Borg Warner and it's of similar size an dimensions to a gt1749
Just need to find out exact measurements
got it booked in for a decat
And also bought some really rare centre locking wheels for it today.
And making use of her as a wee van earlier today getting many wheels lol
Anyway since getting this motor AV done 4000 miles
Iv found myself just randomly in the middle of the night jumping into it and going on mad 500 mile drives,
Last Sunday after the club drove from Edinburgh to Skye
At 40-45 all the way, didn't brake or stop once and managed 85mpg on the dis
Got more mods coming soon
But the way this is Gona end Iv got an itch for a pd170 2.0 engine to fill its boots, I think I could get one running in it without too much hassle, ultimately that's what I'm Gona do,
In the mean time I'm still on track with what I'm doing with a more weight coming off over the weekend.
I'm taking the photo there's also another girl in the photo u can't see.
Back to this a2 I'm totally smitten with it,
It's just a shame it looks so ****,
Every time I walk away or to it I'm never struck by its beauty
But there in lies it's charm as a q car, people never expect it to be that quick,
I'm also impressed by the handling and how flat it corners on what must be shagged suspension .
The power delivery is amanse for a roads just leave it in 5th and use the Torque
Can't wait to map it
On dong my searches it turns out the turbo on my ATL is a Borg Warner and it's of similar size an dimensions to a gt1749
Just need to find out exact measurements
got it booked in for a decat
And also bought some really rare centre locking wheels for it today.
And making use of her as a wee van earlier today getting many wheels lol
Anyway since getting this motor AV done 4000 miles
Iv found myself just randomly in the middle of the night jumping into it and going on mad 500 mile drives,
Last Sunday after the club drove from Edinburgh to Skye
At 40-45 all the way, didn't brake or stop once and managed 85mpg on the dis
Got more mods coming soon
But the way this is Gona end Iv got an itch for a pd170 2.0 engine to fill its boots, I think I could get one running in it without too much hassle, ultimately that's what I'm Gona do,
In the mean time I'm still on track with what I'm doing with a more weight coming off over the weekend.
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enzo
Member
am i right in saying the turbo on the atl is a borgwarner kp39
if so the exhuast side is the same.. but the compressor wheels is 46mm instead of 49mm so the gt1749va would still be an upgrade..
http://post.idparts.com/newest/81-text/tech/7-vnt17-vs-kp39-tdi
here are some specs i found on it
Wheel Size-
Nose Dia.: 9.42 mm
Inducer Dia.: 33.59 mm
Exducer Dia. : 46.00 mm
Trim: 53
Extend Tapered Tip Exducer dia : 49.01 mm
Tip Height: 3.61 mm
Super Back Height: 2.81 mm
Overall Height: 24.62mm
Bore: 4.10 mm
Rotation: Forward
Blade : 6+6
so for now i think im gona screw the boost out of the current turbo to see how it handles. .my mate has a revo garage so gona get the decat fitted then get it mapped.. i really cant wait for this..
if so the exhuast side is the same.. but the compressor wheels is 46mm instead of 49mm so the gt1749va would still be an upgrade..
http://post.idparts.com/newest/81-text/tech/7-vnt17-vs-kp39-tdi
here are some specs i found on it
Wheel Size-
Nose Dia.: 9.42 mm
Inducer Dia.: 33.59 mm
Exducer Dia. : 46.00 mm
Trim: 53
Extend Tapered Tip Exducer dia : 49.01 mm
Tip Height: 3.61 mm
Super Back Height: 2.81 mm
Overall Height: 24.62mm
Bore: 4.10 mm
Rotation: Forward
Blade : 6+6
so for now i think im gona screw the boost out of the current turbo to see how it handles. .my mate has a revo garage so gona get the decat fitted then get it mapped.. i really cant wait for this..
enzo
Member
Managed to finally get a few photos of mine , u all know what they look like tho,
Can't wait to get it low down to the ground, at the moment it sits way to high at the back as Iv taken all that weight out as u can see in the photos ,
Spied a coilover kit
But does anyone know if il also have to buy adjustable drop links when lowering my a2?
Can't wait to get it low down to the ground, at the moment it sits way to high at the back as Iv taken all that weight out as u can see in the photos ,
Spied a coilover kit
But does anyone know if il also have to buy adjustable drop links when lowering my a2?
andrewparkeruk
A2OC Donor
I have an ATL. The info I found about the turbo is
Turbo part number: 045 253 019 A
Manufacturer: KKK (Kuhnle, Kopp & Kausch; since 1998 3K-Warner Turbo Systems = BorgWarner Turbo Systems GmbH)
Manufacturer TN: 5439-988-0015
Turbo family: BV39 / BV39-15
type: VTG (Variable Turbine Geometry)
Andrew
Turbo part number: 045 253 019 A
Manufacturer: KKK (Kuhnle, Kopp & Kausch; since 1998 3K-Warner Turbo Systems = BorgWarner Turbo Systems GmbH)
Manufacturer TN: 5439-988-0015
Turbo family: BV39 / BV39-15
type: VTG (Variable Turbine Geometry)
Andrew
chubbybrown
Member
you will need 165/65/15 to keep speedo right.
enzo
Member
thanks guys
iv had a few problems with the atl and its been off the road for over 6 weeks as you might have read elsewhere in the forum but hpoefully il have it back on the road soon.. really miss driving it..
this was it on van duties before it came off the road
and iv also bought some d2 a8 winters as i absolutlely olove these wheels on the a2
hopefully i can get this fuel issue sorted soon..
iv had a few problems with the atl and its been off the road for over 6 weeks as you might have read elsewhere in the forum but hpoefully il have it back on the road soon.. really miss driving it..
this was it on van duties before it came off the road
and iv also bought some d2 a8 winters as i absolutlely olove these wheels on the a2
hopefully i can get this fuel issue sorted soon..
Ref this post, it may be worth talking with JIGSAW about flywheel swaps - http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthrea...DI-cylinder-head-Overhaul&p=279008#post279008
Cheers Spike
enzo
Member
Ok doing the diesel purge, pretty stoked and relieved at the moment the cars been idling fine now for 20 minutes so that means there must be air getting into the fuel somewhere
First off I'm Gona take out the lift valve/strainer in the tank and give it a clean,
If that doesn't fix il change the fuel in the tank,
If that doesn't work
it in I'm Gona order a new filter housing + filler
got meters of pipe here to change the piping
So glad that the cause of the problem has been narrowed down
Thanks again
First off I'm Gona take out the lift valve/strainer in the tank and give it a clean,
If that doesn't fix il change the fuel in the tank,
If that doesn't work
it in I'm Gona order a new filter housing + filler
got meters of pipe here to change the piping
So glad that the cause of the problem has been narrowed down
Thanks again
enzo
Member
ok amazing!! shes alive again and on the road!!
so it turned out the fuel was contaminated!!
heres a pic of purging..
drained the tank and put 15 quid of fresh clear fuel in and shes back to normal! 5 months off the road due to **** contaminated fuel. i wander if theres anyything that can be done for this on the offending garage
look at the colour of the fuel!!
now i can finally get back to where i was before, but as iv replaced all sensors she pulls a lot better
next on the list will be a boost gauge then il have a stab at remappng it myself
so it turned out the fuel was contaminated!!
heres a pic of purging..
drained the tank and put 15 quid of fresh clear fuel in and shes back to normal! 5 months off the road due to **** contaminated fuel. i wander if theres anyything that can be done for this on the offending garage
look at the colour of the fuel!!
now i can finally get back to where i was before, but as iv replaced all sensors she pulls a lot better
next on the list will be a boost gauge then il have a stab at remappng it myself