Sloppy gear change mechanism

Rusty911

A2OC Donor
I've tried that and it hasn't made any difference. (double de-clutching) So I come down from 5th gear and it gets to mid-position and that's it! It is just like there isn't a slot for 4th gear! Even some force doesn't get it to go down to the 4th gear location. So the only way to get 4th gear is up into 3rd and then down into 4th. As I've said, every other change seems possible, up/down, it's only that one that is impossible! So it's tower replacement next. I've got the latest tower, so I'll also need an associated cup. Details are in this thread : https://www.a2oc.net/community/index.php?threads/new-vag-tower-shifter-help-required.41276/ Let's see what that does to get the gear-changing fully functional ....

David
As per my post above David, have you tried running through all the gears (no cables attached) at the gearbox end? You might get a direct sense of how it feels then. It's well worth getting someone to run through the gears from within the car so you can see where your '4th' is at the tower end. It's a real head-scratcher otherwise!

Also, I was going to ask: how does one remove that shifter assembly as you've pictured?
 

Robin_Cox

Member
As per my post above David, have you tried running through all the gears (no cables attached) at the gearbox end? You might get a direct sense of how it feels then. It's well worth getting someone to run through the gears from within the car so you can see where your '4th' is at the tower end. It's a real head-scratcher otherwise!

Also, I was going to ask: how does one remove that shifter assembly as you've pictured?
2 M8x22 bolts either side of the selector housing where it goes into the box then it should lift out? Part 9 on the diagram below. There is another attachment on the underside of the box (part 25) but I think the tower just sits on that based on the dieselgeek video swapping an 02A to 02J shifter mechanism on a Golf 3 box.

 

Rusty911

A2OC Donor
2 M8x22 bolts either side of the selector housing where it goes into the box then it should lift out? Part 9 on the diagram below. There is another attachment on the underside of the box (part 25) but I think the tower just sits on that based on the dieselgeek video swapping an 02A to 02J shifter mechanism on a Golf 3 box.

Apologies Robin, I was referring to the gear-lever end 🙂 I'm sure many of my own TDi shift woes stem from this area.
 

DJ 190

A2OC Donor
Apologies Robin, I was referring to the gear-lever end 🙂 I'm sure many of my own TDi shift woes stem from this area.
I've just done this. You need to remove the centre section between the seats. A tip, here ..... Detach the handbrake mechanism (four nuts) to allow the centre section to be maneuvered clear of it. Then the gear lever assembly is held with four bolts, two either side. Detaching the two operating cables is simple. Each is retained by a clip which pulls clear. A final helpful bit of information. When re-assembling, be aware that the cable coupling has a notch which must be aligned with the corresponding groove in the casing, before the clip is pushed back to firmly locate the cable. Although there was obvious sloppiness in my shifter (and debris), this was not the cause of my obstructive change from 5th gear down to 4th ....

David
 

Rusty911

A2OC Donor
I've just done this. You need to remove the centre section between the seats. A tip, here ..... Detach the handbrake mechanism (four nuts) to allow the centre section to be maneuvered clear of it. Then the gear lever assembly is held with four bolts, two either side. Detaching the two operating cables is simple. Each is retained by a clip which pulls clear. A final helpful bit of information. When re-assembling, be aware that the cable coupling has a notch which must be aligned with the corresponding groove in the casing, before the clip is pushed back to firmly locate the cable. Although there was obvious sloppiness in my shifter (and debris), this was not the cause of my obstructive change from 5th gear down to 4th ....

David
Thank you David! Also sounds like the perfect time to fit the handbrake cubby I bought for it a while back 😎
 

Bryn

Member
How coincidental is this! Just 40 minutes ago I'd taken the gear changer assembly out of my A2. (I get confused with the "tower assembly"/shift shaft and other terms). I'm talking about the part that is internal and has the gear knob/rod as part of it. So what did I discover? Well. lots of wear debris and mess! There seems to be play where the main rod connects to the shift-lever via a white nylon bush. So this could be the reason for difficult and obstructive changes. The most difficult has been changing down from 5th gear to 4th. Just about impossible! It appears that the bush can be unscrewed from the end of the rod and replaced independently without having to remove the complete cable. I'l know tomorrow if that is indeed the case.
Oh, what exactly is this "counterweight" that you've been referring too, please?

David
so the white nylon Bush that can be unscrewed... that has just been mentioned by a neighbour who has always got a VWin bits on his drive....can this be swapped out for a start? And is there a place I can get one ......
 
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