Robthebank
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Excellent 16mins in and contemplating a plan B, cheers Paul?
Do up or trade in?
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amble-gamble
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Interesting thread!!
Paul if you upgade the throttle body and manifold on the petrol do yo think it could handle the long gear.
Or is it the extra torque from the remap
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Paul if you upgade the throttle body and manifold on the petrol do yo think it could handle the long gear.
Or is it the extra torque from the remap
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amble-gamble
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Better the devil you know then the devil you don't.
I would like to get our A2 to 2030!!
greywolfhound
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I would like to get our A2 to 2030!!
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I don’t see why you couldn’t do that ..to be honest petrol a2s is probably the way to go ..my gut feeling is they will hammer diesels next few years
I hope they don’t but who knows ..
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I don’t see why you couldn’t do that ..to be honest petrol a2s is probably the way to go ..my gut feeling is they will hammer diesels next few years
I hope they don’t but who knows ..
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murdo
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I don’t see why you couldn’t do that ..to be honest petrol a2s is probably the way to go ..my gut feeling is they will hammer diesels next few years ☹ I hope they don’t but who knows ..
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Yes that's a worry isn't it. I'd like to keep my car going well into the next decade however the swap post from our Danish member quoting 90 euro a month vehicle excise on a TDI 90 was quite chilling.
You'd like to think that classic cars may see some relaxation to avoid them being forced off the roads. Problem there is how would that be classified. Can't think of any classic Diesel vehicles that aren't heritage heavy goods or agricultural vehicles.
amble-gamble
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Yeap diesel is gonna struggle Bristol have banned them from next year
I opted for petrol anyway but I'm hoping electric conversion kits will be readily available at a decent price by then.
The A2 is a prime canditate to be converted, Alu structure, weight, aero dynamics, size.
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I opted for petrol anyway but I'm hoping electric conversion kits will be readily available at a decent price by then.
The A2 is a prime canditate to be converted, Alu structure, weight, aero dynamics, size.
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greywolfhound
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Yes that's a worry isn't it. I'd like to keep my car going well into the next decade however the swap post from our Danish member quoting 90 euro a month vehicle excise on a TDI 90 was quite chilling.
You'd like to think that classic cars may see some relaxation to avoid them being forced off the roads. Problem there is how would that be classified. Can't think of any classic Diesel vehicles that aren't heritage heavy goods or agricultural vehicles.
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That was a Dutch member Menno but Holland is pushing more than any other European country ..someone’s just mentioned our new government I think they were right a more relaxed attitude so for next parliament we should be ok ...but yes if you live in cities then petrol is no doubt first choice .i tend to stay well away from them we are country folk ..?
thejohn
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The Diesel ULEZ thing was my reasoning for getting rid of my Mercedes and with the ULEZ radiating to the A406/A205 North and South Circulars from next year (should had been this year 2020) and I've always had an eye for the A2, so petrol was my choice although I would had preferred a diesel but not with the current politics.
John
John
QuattroA2
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Diesel needs to die! Looking forward to more (affordable) mainstream electric kits for classics, and major advancements in battery range technology for modern vehicles. My mum just took delivery of a BMW i3, having sold her petrol A2. Feels like the little BMW is a natural successor to the A2, with superb build quality and impressive around town performance.
greywolfhound
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The only problem there is 10s of thousand of old 4 x 4 on the roads I’m one of those old owners I use an old Toyota for winter ?..be it in snow or at the moment on the Somerset levels floods ..and s**tty muddy lanes ..not everyone lives on nicely paved housing developments..not an easy answer ?
depronman
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never tried it on a petrol, but its the torque that is needed, I'm not sure home much more torque you get from the larger throttle body etc on the petrol
Vantagemech
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I disagree. The idealistic believe EV are the way to go but lets see how many 17 yr old EV's there will be still on the original running gear at 150k +.
They still need charging. They still have ranges that suit local journeys (unless you have £80k+ for a tesla etc) and to me while yes they are quicker they are entirely souless. While the technology is advancing, so is ICE and petrol cars now are in the diesel territory of a decade ago. However, to suggest that the fuel used by the majority of the commercial vehicles should be replaced with a relatively newborn and poorly networked system is a little naive. The worlds fossil fuel reserves were far greater than estimated in the 70's and while there are certainly some issues with pollution, they are not the single biggest issue we have to solve. Rant over
Jeetesh
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I also disagree too, I own a merc diesel and it’s a Euro 6d, it emits less particulates than the majority of the petrol engines out there, probably less than my FSI too. See article in the link below, my e-class has the same engine/gearbox as the c220d in this article. Mercedes spent billions on diesel tech and this engine arrived just as dieselgate unfolded for VAG however numerous independent tests show it to be one of the cleanest diesels out there. Google OM654 and there are numerous articles as to how this engine differs from normal Diesel engines and why it’s so clean.I disagree. The idealistic believe EV are the way to go but lets see how many 17 yr old EV's there will be still on the original running gear at 150k +.
They still need charging. They still have ranges that suit local journeys (unless you have £80k+ for a tesla etc) and to me while yes they are quicker they are entirely souless. While the technology is advancing, so is ICE and petrol cars now are in the diesel territory of a decade ago. However, to suggest that the fuel used by the majority of the commercial vehicles should be replaced with a relatively newborn and poorly networked system is a little naive. The worlds fossil fuel reserves were far greater than estimated in the 70's and while there are certainly some issues with pollution, they are not the single biggest issue we have to solve. Rant over
Whilst EV’s are probably the future, the technology is not at the point where it’s viable for everyone unless as Vantagemech states, you have £80k plus for a Tesla. Even then I couldn't drive to the south for France without it taking significantly more time than in my merc diesel which doesn’t have to stop at multiple superchargers not necessarily along the way.
Vantagemech - I think I’m on the same soapbox.
Tests reveal some new diesel cars produce almost ZERO NOx emissions
Some of the latest diesel cars on sale today produce no or next-to-zero harmful nitrogen oxide - a pollutant associated with causing tens of thousands of premature deaths in the UK each year.
Robthebank
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Wow that’s some thread drift in one page.
For what it’s worth I hade a LEAF from 2015-18 and did 70k miles during those 3 years, with a total cost of ownership of £11,094 or £0.158/mile (that’s everything all in). Yep a pain on 500mile family holidays, but ideal for 50-100 mile days here in Cornwall. Although if you want to do something today to help the environment, then switch to a 100% renewable energy supplier, or walk to the shops or just slow down by 5mph on the motorway. After those 70k miles the range had dropped by 8%, I guess any petrol / diesel car would have lost the same level of efficiency. Apart from two sets of tyres, 3 services and screen wash I didn’t spend a penny on repairs.
For what it’s worth I hade a LEAF from 2015-18 and did 70k miles during those 3 years, with a total cost of ownership of £11,094 or £0.158/mile (that’s everything all in). Yep a pain on 500mile family holidays, but ideal for 50-100 mile days here in Cornwall. Although if you want to do something today to help the environment, then switch to a 100% renewable energy supplier, or walk to the shops or just slow down by 5mph on the motorway. After those 70k miles the range had dropped by 8%, I guess any petrol / diesel car would have lost the same level of efficiency. Apart from two sets of tyres, 3 services and screen wash I didn’t spend a penny on repairs.
The jdd box is nice - but its not the right gearing for the a2 tdi imho.
Robthebank
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Ok so 1st quarter 2020 update.
Along with the >90% of you I have opted for “do up”.
I had the brake refresh done courtesy of a ECP 50% off voucher. So it hade new disks/ pads / drums and shoes in January then went straight through the MOT without any advisories.
That left some pennies for @timmus. Today he replaced the faded DIS screen.
Combined my faulty door lock mech with a donor one to make one good one.
Replaced the B pillar switches.
Fixed the rear interior light (common solder issue).
And also cured a rattle in the dash.
All during a passing storm, top bloke!
For the first time in 12,000 miles I could open the fuel cap without going in the boot, result!
I also have my eye on a replacement wheel arch, so hopefully that cosmetic issue will be tidied up before long to. Now the bad news, I have a promotion at work and they are insisting I get a company car, so the A2 will become my wife’s and we will offload the Altea. Let’s hope she looks after it?
Along with the >90% of you I have opted for “do up”.
I had the brake refresh done courtesy of a ECP 50% off voucher. So it hade new disks/ pads / drums and shoes in January then went straight through the MOT without any advisories.
That left some pennies for @timmus. Today he replaced the faded DIS screen.
Combined my faulty door lock mech with a donor one to make one good one.
Replaced the B pillar switches.
Fixed the rear interior light (common solder issue).
And also cured a rattle in the dash.
All during a passing storm, top bloke!
For the first time in 12,000 miles I could open the fuel cap without going in the boot, result!
I also have my eye on a replacement wheel arch, so hopefully that cosmetic issue will be tidied up before long to. Now the bad news, I have a promotion at work and they are insisting I get a company car, so the A2 will become my wife’s and we will offload the Altea. Let’s hope she looks after it?
timmus
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Ah, that was the culprit, then!