Legal LED H7 *LHD only

Ducatiric3 said:
Thanks. Does anybody have experience of any reliable suppliers of used LHD parts in EU? New ones are quite pricey!
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I have bought some used parts from rrr.lt (ovoko in some countries like in Finland it's ovoko.fi). It looks a bit sketchy but everything has worked great when I have bought parts from there.
 
@Ducatiric3 : Try proxyparts - plenty headlights left and right from € 25

I have entered my registration 88-LV-LS but all A2's have the same headlights as fas as I know (apart from LHD / RHD).
I have these ECE-approved LEDs in my car, but I checked and unfortunately they don't do RHD cars...
 
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Peter said:
Try proxyparts - plenty headlights left and right from € 25

I have entered my registration 88-LV-LS but all A2's have the same headlights as fas as I know (apart from LHD / RHD).
I have these ECE-approved LEDs in my car, but I checked and unfortunately they don't do RHD cars...
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I don't think the lamps are handed, it's the headlight itself that is, via the lense and reflector.
I suspect the reason LHD only is mentioned is because the testing procedure, to get EU approval, will only be done for headlight assemblies that dip to the right.
Mac.
 
PlasticMac said:
I don't think the lamps are handed, it's the headlight itself that is, via the lense and reflector.
I suspect the reason LHD only is mentioned is because the testing procedure, to get EU approval, will only be done for headlight assemblies that dip to the right.
Mac.
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I'm inclined to agree with this speculation. My TT has a lever on the back of the (inside of) the headlight assembly, which flips the beam dip from LHD to RHD. The bulb doesn't move so common sense (I know, I know, I can hear myself saying this!) supports the idea that the bulbs don't dictate the direction of the dip.
 
Stop and think about it. It would make far more sense to design and place the LEDs in specific locations to improve the beam pattern for left hand drive and differently for right hand drive. The reflector is designed to adjust the light from the halogen bulbs due to its uniform light. There is still the issue over automatic self levelling and headlight wash although this does not appear to be as much of a requirement as previously.

I know I would not be impressed to be dazzled by uncontrolled LED light from on coming traffic.

And yes I do own a car with factory fitted LED lights that performs an auto level when they are switched on and has headlight washers fitted.
 
audifan said:
Stop and think about it. It would make far more sense to design and place the LEDs in specific locations to improve the beam pattern for left hand drive and differently for right hand drive. The reflector is designed to adjust the light from the halogen bulbs due to its uniform light. There is still the issue over automatic self levelling and headlight wash although this does not appear to be as much of a requirement as previously.

I know I would not be impressed to be dazzled by uncontrolled LED light from on coming traffic.

And yes I do own a car with factory fitted LED lights that performs an auto level when they are switched on and has headlight washers fitted.
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I'm working on the assumption, (for better or worse), that as it's designed as an H7 halogen replacement, it will conform to the same spec as the H7 halogen lamp, so beam pattern, and light temperature will be similar. This will only be the case if the light source, (led), is in the same position as the halogen filament. The, (German?), authority which tested it, and certified it as H4 compliant, would surely not have done so if it was not.
We'll see, give me a few days.
Mac.
 
Fitted them today. Here's the result.
First pick is from drivers seat, on an unlit road.
Second is close behind another car, sharp cutoff, no glare.
The light is bright and white
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, (but not unpleasantly so), the illumination of the verge is good, and the cut off on the right is sharp. What's not like?
Mac.
 
PlasticMac said:
Fitted them today. Here's the result.
First pick is from drivers seat, on an unlit road.
Second is close behind another car, sharp cutoff, no glare.
The light is bright and whiteView attachment 102073View attachment 102074, (but not unpleasantly so), the illumination of the verge is good, and the cut off on the right is sharp. What's not like?
Mac.
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Here's one when I parked at home, again from driver's seat. Shows the sharp cut off clearly.
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Mac
 
Sorry Mac do not see CE approval on these and clearly states not ECE approved and for off road use only. Yes better more modern lighting really would benefit the A2 but not at the expense of drivers getting pulled over by the police for using these on the road in the hope they get away with it until they have to reluctantly change back to halogens for the MOT.

The word "legal" in the title of this thread should be enough for most to understand the issue with non approved LED conversions.
 
They do have CE approval.
I fully understand that they are unapproved in UK, and so in using them, I risk prosecution. The improved night vision they give, is, in my opinion, worth that risk.
We can all make our own decisions on this.
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Mac.
 
steaman said:
They are not street legal. Not ECE approved, and the car Audi A2 is "full car approved" which means only Audi can get them approved by redoing the approval process.
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Many of the suspension mods, wheel and tyre combinations our members use and recommend are non OEM and of questionable legality, in the strict sense. But the risk is small, and obviously many of us think it's a risk worth taking.
If driving with lights that are obviously aftermarket, and causing glare and nuisance to other road users, it shouldn't surprise you if the police take notice, and maybe, action. But if your lights are not causing glare, are not excessively bright, and the beam pattern is within spec. why would they pull you over? And what would you be charged with, if they did? Using non OEM parts m'lud?
Come on, life's too short for all this negativity.
Mac.
 
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