Revo Remap
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dan_b
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Hi there
I have a Revo/AmD remap (Revo bought AmD recently) on my 03 1.4TDi 75. I went to the Mega4 Revo franchise near Woking. Very satisfied with the results, I would recommend them for sure. Far more power and torque, sustained to the redline, with no smoke. I don't have absolute figures for my car as it wasn't a rolling-road session, but they claim good achievable figures which are similar to other suppliers.
Their healthcheck revealed I had a weak MAF too, so I'm about to replace mine...
The remap makes the diesel much more willing and responsive, and economy-wise I'm getting in the high 60s at the moment, so it's not harmed me there it would seem (re-maps often improve economy in fact).
Go for it, that's what I'd say.
I have a Revo/AmD remap (Revo bought AmD recently) on my 03 1.4TDi 75. I went to the Mega4 Revo franchise near Woking. Very satisfied with the results, I would recommend them for sure. Far more power and torque, sustained to the redline, with no smoke. I don't have absolute figures for my car as it wasn't a rolling-road session, but they claim good achievable figures which are similar to other suppliers.
Their healthcheck revealed I had a weak MAF too, so I'm about to replace mine...
The remap makes the diesel much more willing and responsive, and economy-wise I'm getting in the high 60s at the moment, so it's not harmed me there it would seem (re-maps often improve economy in fact).
Go for it, that's what I'd say.
Hi dan_b,
Thanks for the quick reply. I've been getting a little confused lately cos theres so many companies doing remaps. Sounds like the Revo software is quite effective. They claim 75 to 109bhp and 144-182lb/ft torque on the website which I imagine will make a big difference with such a small car.
I might just have to treat myself!
Fantastic forum by-the-way! I've been navigating my way through over the past week or so and stummbled upon some invaluable information.
Regards
Thanks for the quick reply. I've been getting a little confused lately cos theres so many companies doing remaps. Sounds like the Revo software is quite effective. They claim 75 to 109bhp and 144-182lb/ft torque on the website which I imagine will make a big difference with such a small car.
I might just have to treat myself!
Fantastic forum by-the-way! I've been navigating my way through over the past week or so and stummbled upon some invaluable information.
Regards
dan_b
A2OC Donor
@Rspears
No problem, happy to share my experience. There is a total minefield of companies out there offering to tweak, tune, remap or bodge your engines these days, ranging from reputable to the distinctly dodgy. My view is that you don't want to risk your engine going bang, so you want someone reputable, who knows what they're doing, will produce drivable benefits that will retain the ECUs failsafes, rather than risking everytihng to chase that seemingly impressive final BHP figure.
Being relatively local, and reasonably priced also helps! That played a big part in my choice this time, I wanted someone local who could do it quickly - so found the Revo Agent, otherwise I would have driven up to Banbury to MRC Tuning, who I've had map my previous cars and who I can't rate highly enough really.
You won't regret doing it though, it makes the TDi so much better to drive.
No problem, happy to share my experience. There is a total minefield of companies out there offering to tweak, tune, remap or bodge your engines these days, ranging from reputable to the distinctly dodgy. My view is that you don't want to risk your engine going bang, so you want someone reputable, who knows what they're doing, will produce drivable benefits that will retain the ECUs failsafes, rather than risking everytihng to chase that seemingly impressive final BHP figure.
Being relatively local, and reasonably priced also helps! That played a big part in my choice this time, I wanted someone local who could do it quickly - so found the Revo Agent, otherwise I would have driven up to Banbury to MRC Tuning, who I've had map my previous cars and who I can't rate highly enough really.
You won't regret doing it though, it makes the TDi so much better to drive.
driveforward
Member
I have Revo and although you won't get the highest available torque and power output from such a map, the car won't smoke and the software comes with a top notch warranty.
You pays your money, you makes your choice!
You pays your money, you makes your choice!
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Emm
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A custom re-map is always a good option
I can’t see how a basic chip can be as effective as a custom remap. But a reputable company with feedback from others is a good option also. Also any tune without a rolling road won’t be as effective.
One further issue is distance to travel, I would personally not risk my engine on a job just because it is local. Travel 200 or 400 miles if you have to, you will enjoy the drive home!!
I can’t see how a basic chip can be as effective as a custom remap. But a reputable company with feedback from others is a good option also. Also any tune without a rolling road won’t be as effective.
One further issue is distance to travel, I would personally not risk my engine on a job just because it is local. Travel 200 or 400 miles if you have to, you will enjoy the drive home!!
dan_b
A2OC Donor
A custom re-map is always a good option
I can’t see how a basic chip can be as effective as a custom remap. But a reputable company with feedback from others is a good option also. Also any tune without a rolling road won’t be as effective.
One further issue is distance to travel, I would personally not risk my engine on a job just because it is local. Travel 200 or 400 miles if you have to, you will enjoy the drive home!!
I must take issue there. For the majority of engines, a custom-remap is not really necessary; unless the car's hardware is significantly away from stock (e.g. different turbo, or larger injectors), or very ill, then a "basic chip" as you say will be perfectly adequate. The map in that chip will have at some point been developed on a normal motor, so provided it was developed by someone who knows what they are doing, with the ECU having inbuilt adaption it will cope with very small differences in tolerance for each motor/fuel.
A custom re-map is certainly the way forward if you're the first up with that spec (e.g. noone else has had a map done on a certain car before), or there's something very unusual about your set-up (bigger turbo, intercooler, injectors etc), or you're chasing a certain style of driving and you want the car to be tuned to how you drive (e.g. you absolutely must have an engine that revs way past the standard redline!) .
A rolling-road does not necessarily equate to best map either - even with the best setups you get major heat soak issues, and as I mentioned before, you end up chasing big numbers (which are probably not accurate), which doesn't necessarily translate into driveability, or reliability.
Locale is an issue. The best mapper in the world maybe living in Russia for all we know, but I'd rather not travel all that way to get there, especially with the cost of fuel these days
You pay your money and make your choice.
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Emm
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I must take issue there. For the majority of engines, a custom-remap is not really necessary; unless the car's hardware is significantly away from stock (e.g. different turbo, or larger injectors), or very ill, then a "basic chip" as you say will be perfectly adequate. The map in that chip will have at some point been developed on a normal motor, so provided it was developed by someone who knows what they are doing, with the ECU having inbuilt adaption it will cope with very small differences in tolerance for each motor/fuel.
A custom re-map is certainly the way forward if you're the first up with that spec (e.g. noone else has had a map done on a certain car before), or there's something very unusual about your set-up (bigger turbo, intercooler, injectors etc), or you're chasing a certain style of driving and you want the car to be tuned to how you drive (e.g. you absolutely must have an engine that revs way past the standard redline!) .
A rolling-road does not necessarily equate to best map either - even with the best setups you get major heat soak issues, and as I mentioned before, you end up chasing big numbers (which are probably not accurate), which doesn't necessarily translate into driveability, or reliability.
Locale is an issue. The best mapper in the world maybe living in Russia for all we know, but I'd rather not travel all that way to get there, especially with the cost of fuel these days
You pay your money and make your choice.
I agree a custom remap is not necessary but preferable by a sizeable percentage of A2 chipped users. Its not really a universal one size fits all chip like the Revo, not that the revo is bad just approached from a different perspective.
"A rolling-road does not necessarily equate to best map either"
Of course, buts its a good foundation for seeing the state of you car before you proceed, i bet every A2 on a rolling road will have peaks and dips in different places. I don't think you need to be chasing numbers to want a custom remap nor a rolling road test. I assume that due to most tuning specialists suggesting the best setups are achieved with a rolling road tests and the engine under load, that they feel it is important. But i agree some do chase figures.
I also agree that if you exaggerate the point to traveling to Russia who would go even though the mpg is good in the A2
, but if its a 30 mile trip or a 250 mile trip I would go for the later...ULP: Have a lot of users mentioned the smoke?
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Emm
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dan_b MCR tuning have a nice vid on there website
Emm,
The smoke that Chris mentions is present in both of our Stealth remapped cars. To be fair though, it is only a predominant feature under full throttle and not noticeable at all under 3/4 accelerator travel.
Whilst it may look unsightly, unburned fuel does not detract from the drive, nor does it necessarily give me cause for concern.
Ian's Revo remap is mighty clean though, it has to be said.
Darren
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Emm
Guest
Thanks Darren
I just had not heard it discussed before, especially in the Stealth section remap thread.
I just had not heard it discussed before, especially in the Stealth section remap thread.
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Emm
Guest
I must either have a new revised custom map from Stealth, or a lucky non smoking version...
Or a rear screen too dirty to notice
Or a rear screen too dirty to notice
dan_b
A2OC Donor
Surely if it's genuinely custom, then every single one is new
Diesel smoke comes from too much fuel/ too little air in the fuel-air mix. Very common for re-mapped diesels to smoke on full beans if the map is agressively shunting lots of fuel in. Clearly the bigger power figures you chase for, the greater the risk of increased smoke, but there are things a mapper can do to reduce issues. Glad to say that my Revo map seems to emit no more smoke than before.
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Emm
Guest
ULP:
Good idea but probably not fair for me as I have never dipped the nearside mirror before so i wouldn't have a reference point. If i can't see it in the rear screen the same as before, that will do for me!!
Dan_b:
Some do chase figures you are right, and its all about the "size that matters". sad really
ULP: The Sig is interesting to some, probably most. But to me its a measure of social standing, look what i got, is it better than yours? Lets see.
The car is a status symbol, a position of wealth over the neighbour. (That’s why the manufactures have so many tiny face lifts). "oh look, you only have the 2007 model where as i have the 2008" lol
Why does a car have a badge telling the person behind that it is a diesel or a turbo diesel, or that it has 16 valves in the engine moving up and down, instead of your smaller 8 valves? I love the badge saying intercooler the best, so you are indicating to the car behind that your car has a radiator to cool air via a network of hoses to the turbo, brilliant, thanks for that
Sigs are the same thing, many are playing to the male social standing of needing to measure ones self via a set of material objects.
Anyway sorry went off on one there...
Good idea but probably not fair for me as I have never dipped the nearside mirror before so i wouldn't have a reference point. If i can't see it in the rear screen the same as before, that will do for me!!
Dan_b:
Some do chase figures you are right, and its all about the "size that matters". sad really
ULP: The Sig is interesting to some, probably most. But to me its a measure of social standing, look what i got, is it better than yours? Lets see.
The car is a status symbol, a position of wealth over the neighbour. (That’s why the manufactures have so many tiny face lifts). "oh look, you only have the 2007 model where as i have the 2008" lol
Why does a car have a badge telling the person behind that it is a diesel or a turbo diesel, or that it has 16 valves in the engine moving up and down, instead of your smaller 8 valves? I love the badge saying intercooler the best, so you are indicating to the car behind that your car has a radiator to cool air via a network of hoses to the turbo, brilliant, thanks for that
Sigs are the same thing, many are playing to the male social standing of needing to measure ones self via a set of material objects.
Anyway sorry went off on one there...
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Emm
Guest
My A2 is de-badged
Same here
I like that line ULP "Crikey, Freud would have a field day!"
I might put that in my sig next time.A custom re-map is always a good option
I can’t see how a basic chip can be as effective as a custom remap. But a reputable company with feedback from others is a good option also. Also any tune without a rolling road won’t be as effective.
One further issue is distance to travel, I would personally not risk my engine on a job just because it is local. Travel 200 or 400 miles if you have to, you will enjoy the drive home!!
Hi Emm, thanks for your reply. I'm not looking for the highest figures or best performance, just something to breath a little more life into the car and value for money is always a deciding factor too. I intend to do my homework on this one and apprecite the advice of all A2oc members. Just thought I would start local and work my way from there.
As I say, I'm new to the A2 world and I value the input from all you A2 veterans!
Thanks again.
dan_b
A2OC Donor
@Rspears - whereabouts do you live/work; perhaps we could help focus your search down to some local providers, or alternatively you could go out for some trips in the various tuned A2s here to see the effects for yourself before you purchase? If you're in SW London you'd be more than welcome to pop over and try out my Revo'd car.