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Message from Honda - car due mid to late March. Am counting the days.

Ian

2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield are silver ? ? ?
 
Oh hi Ian, lost track of this thread a bit.
But of course I have to step in again and say something positive about Honda.
In this case: congrats on getting that beautiful Accord Tourer. I really really envy you.

And after having a peek at expected costs of this car as a lease-car, I quite certainly know that I'm never going to own/drive one: compared to my current A2 I have to dig out about twice the amount of money that I do now, every month...:( no way Jose.

Looking forward to hearing and seeing more about your Tourer!

Edo

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(2003 Silver 1.4 Tdi Exclusive(SE), black interior, sport seats, heated mirrors, JVC KD-SH909RB cd-receiver, Infinity Kappa 63.1 + Vifa on-dash tweeters, 12" Subwoofer on 300w Amp) and on its merry way to Germany, ABT, to be chiptuned, finally!
 
Edo

Have just priced an A2 1.4 SE 90bhp, Climate, leather, heated seats, perlescent paint in our lease system and it is within £5/month of the Accord Tourer - Saloon would be cheaper!

Re-sale values will be the biggest factor in this!

Ian

2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield are silver ? ? ?
 
You are kidding me, aren't you? How can that be?

Both Audi's and Honda's are quite expensive to lease, even though both should have good re-sale values.

But my comment came from this:

Current A2 Tdi, about 28.000 euro in total, has a price tag of 792 euro/month (my employer pays 568, I pay the rest)
An Honda Accord Tourer ctdi Sport, about 35.500 euro (without 'my own options') has a price tag of 982 euro/month!

Both values are for a 35000km/year contract lasting 4 years, diesel fuel included.

So the Accord is at least 200 euro more expensive, and then I'm forgetting about taxes for lease cars!

Should I move to the UK?!

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(2003 Silver 1.4 Tdi Exclusive(SE), black interior, sport seats, heated mirrors, JVC KD-SH909RB cd-receiver, Infinity Kappa 63.1 + Vifa on-dash tweeters, 12" Subwoofer on 300w Amp) and on its merry way to Germany, ABT, to be chiptuned, finally!
 
Sorry, got my figures mixed up - the A2 would be £100 cheaper at around £400/month. Try loading the A2 with extras to take it up to the Honda Exec spec - extras tend to put the lease price through the roof as they do not recover the cost on re-sale.

Ian

2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield are silver ? ? ?
 
Will eventually get my brain into gear - A2 is £399 Honda is 400-415 depending upon lease company!

Yes - 400-415!!!!!!!

Ian

2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield are silver ? ? ?
 
Okay everyone. Anybody ever lease a car from across the North Sea? I want my Accord Tourer! ;)

Thanks for the comparison Ian. But to to recover from my disappointment in the Dutch lease companies, you at least need to post some pictures once you get the Honda.[8)]

Cheers,
Edo

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(2003 Silver 1.4 Tdi Exclusive(SE), black interior, sport seats, heated mirrors, JVC KD-SH909RB cd-receiver, Infinity Kappa 63.1 + Vifa on-dash tweeters, 12" Subwoofer on 300w Amp) and on its merry way to Germany, ABT, to be chiptuned, finally!
 
Update - 25/2

The Honda is due next week (04 plate)[8D][8D][8D] - so far I have only seen two tourers outside dealers (one was the demo car).

Ian

2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield silver ? ? ?
 
i just gave up 2 holly........40 a day & could hardly breathe........took those ZIBAN tablets n havent touched fags in 3 months now thank god.....

anyway.........go buy yourself a honda CBR1000 & stop comparing these little A2 thingys on performance........lol.........then you will know how it feels 2 go from 0-60 in 2.5 seconds.....hehe.....sorry me in cheeky mood this morning.
 
Honda arrives today!

Goodbye to the Passat, has been reliable and fun. Just to upset those with 1.6FSIs it is a 1.8T SE and has averaged 38.8 mpg over 96200 miles with a best of 44 and a worst of 32mpg. All this from a 4 seater car with a 0-60 time of just over 8 sec and capable of almost 140. The highest I have seen on the speedo is 120 - accidentally on the A20!

Only failed to start twice - battery failure the first time (replaced by AA) and discharged the battery second time (Ignition off current of over 5A when the AA man arrived!) Other than that only one oil sensor, one mirror heating element and one key remote failed.

Difficult act for the Honda to follow. Will see if they live up to the advert "Isn't it nice when things just work"

2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield silver ? ? ?
 
Wow, good for you Ian! Very quick delivery! I waited for my Civic Aerodeck for 5 months, back when it first came out in 1998/1999.

I think the Accord will have no trouble being as reliable as the Passat (accidentally ;)) was. My own Honda only broke up too many times because of the LPG installation. And my mothers 11 year old Honda CRX has made it to over 200.000km without major problems (except for severe problems with letting in rain...)

Enjoy!

Edo

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(2003 Silver 1.4 Tdi Exclusive(SE), 95bhp/235Nm chiptuned by ABT (finally!), black interior, sport seats, heated mirrors, JVC KD-SH909RB cd-receiver, Infinity Kappa 63.1 + Vifa on-dash tweeters, 12" Subwoofer on 300w Amp)
 
3 days in and just filled it for the second time, 480 miles at 48mpg, most at 75-80.

Like the A2 it is a great ride, handles well, and goes like stink. Seats great, stereo marvelous (Bose) and that tailgate sure does attract some attention in the car-parks. unfortunately the colour shows the dirt a little (a lot really). When it is clean again I will take a couple of photos.

I wonder what Honda diesels will be like once they have got the hang of them! Beleive it or not this one does not smoke - even under hard acceleration when they generally put out a big cloud - the Vectra DI used to dim following cars headlights!

Only grouses so far - My daughter (aged 19, drives Focus 1.6) doesn't like it because its an estate and it has wood trim, SWMBO doesn't like it because it's an estate but loves the split zone heating and wants more wood trim, my son (18) loves it but is jealous because he cannot drive it (company car).

For those with tyre sealant instead of the spare in their A2s I opted for the free optional space saver in the Honda (dealer fit) and it arrrived with the sealant/compressor and all the trim they took out to fit the spare in the boot so I have both options available.

Looking for another reason to go out!

Ian

2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield silver ? ? ?
 
I knew it. All this talk doesn't help me in forgetting about the Accord ;)
Sounds great in all respects. And it's a men's car too, so it seems.
People who do not like estates just haven't looked any further than the Vauhall Astra Station! The Accord is a real looker. Looking forward to pictures.

Oh, btw, my (chipped) tdi doesn't smoke either. Diesels that smoke are either really old or have been treated without much respect too many times, IMO. (And yes, I might count the older Vectra diesels as 'really old'!)


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(2003 Silver 1.4 Tdi Exclusive(SE), 95bhp/235Nm chiptuned by ABT, black interior, sport seats, heated mirrors, JVC KD-SH909RB cd-receiver, Infinity Kappa 63.1 + Vifa on-dash tweeters, 12" Subwoofer on 300w Amp)
 
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