A2 Future Classic says Daily Mail!

sciroccorrado

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TDI 90’s are certainly more rare but I suppose how collectible Diesel cars are in the future depends upon how demonised the fuel becomes over the next 10 years. The way the Government is directly and indirectly penalising owners of diesel cars has to be one of the greatest acts of hypocrisy of recent times given how previous Governments promoted Diesel as the great CO2 saviour for so many years. The ‘eco’ choice!
I was reading about a new model introduction yesterday ‘three petrol engines, a pure electric version, and one diesel - although the company does not expect the diesel engine to be a high volume seller’. How things have changed in 3 years!!
Maybe in 10 years time the few remaining diesel drivers will be back to fighting over the single ‘black’ pump on the petrol forecourt with the HGV’s!?
It does remind me of back in the mid 90s when I had a Pug 205 Diesel, when lifting the diesel pump at the local garage an automated voice would tell me to make sure I knew I was putting Diesel into my car, and was I sure I wanted to do this?
 

Edwrai

Member
TDI 90’s are certainly more rare but I suppose how collectible Diesel cars are in the future depends upon how demonised the fuel becomes over the next 10 years. The way the Government is directly and indirectly penalising owners of diesel cars has to be one of the greatest acts of hypocrisy of recent times given how previous Governments promoted Diesel as the great CO2 saviour for so many years. The ‘eco’ choice!
I was reading about a new model introduction yesterday ‘three petrol engines, a pure electric version, and one diesel - although the company does not expect the diesel engine to be a high volume seller’. How things have changed in 3 years!!
Maybe in 10 years time the few remaining diesel drivers will be back to fighting over the single ‘black’ pump on the petrol forecourt with the HGV’s!?
Maybe but wouldn’t this make diesel classic cars more sort after when loads get scrapped because of this. Diesel will be with us a long long time, wouldn’t worry too much.


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Leopard680

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Future Classic? Yes. And the response when one removes the bonnet is absolutely priceless! I did this at an impromptu meet somewhere in Sussex Recently.

People ran across a busy road to check Alison out. A couple of children said that this feature was "Sick".

Honestly, there was a small crowd. And they were hooked when they saw the other features we take for granted.

Alison isn't perfect. She has some bumps and scrapes. I'm responsible for one of these!

At 238,800 miles, she is still returning 60+ MPG.

These are seriously well respected cars among all car Enthusiasts. Don't be afraid to remove your bonnets... The response is priceless! And you will make new friends! 👍 👍 👍 😎 😎 I
 

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dj_efk

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I would argue these cars ARE classics but the word is very subjective.

Either way, there’s still enough of them around to significantly depress values from where they will be in time; when people realise they are still the perfect solution for a small, roomy, economical to run, but plush / premium little car that will be reliable ( and now we have proboost for FSI’s we can legitimately claim a large part of A2 reliability woes can be sorted it seems).

I for one am glad I discovered the A2 now before everyone else does. I’m also glad this happened before so many get broken up that the choice is limited and good used parts are scarce.
 
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if dealers get hold of this info it will be a night mare, oh future classic these are papers say so, so that fsi what sat on the forecourt has now had another 1k put on it along with his screen print on the advert 😂
 

PlasticMac

Member
The initials FSI stand for "Fuel Stratified Injection"
An A2, fitted with a 1.6 ltr FSI engine, is an FSI.
If this engine is fitted with a non OEM ECU, remapped to disable the variable inlet, lower the engine temperature, and advance the ignition (and so make it compatible with 95 octane petrol), it is no longer an FSI.
This does not mean such a remap is a bad idea, far from it. There are good, very valid reasons for going this route.
But, if you haven't driven a 1.6 FSI, in fine fettle, with full FSI functionality, on 99 octane fuel, you should. Then you can critique it as much as you like.
Is it a future classic? I neither know nor care.

Mac.
 

A2Steve

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@PlasticMac

Straight from the horses mouth

“Hey Steve,

The ignition timing isnt changed at all, so isn't the knock monitoring function. This means that fuelwise everything can be used as stock.

Maybe a little side information: the believe that the ecu advances its ignition angle by itself is a fairytale, the ignition angle can only be decreased for fuel with a lower quality

best regards
Juschka“
 

PlasticMac

Member
The initials FSI stand for "Fuel Stratified Injection"
An A2, fitted with a 1.6 ltr FSI engine, is an FSI.
If this engine is fitted with a non OEM ECU, remapped to disable the variable inlet, lower the engine temperature, and make it compatible with 95 octane petrol (although 98/99 octane will still give better performance), it is no longer an FSI.
This does not mean such a remap is a bad idea, far from it. There are good, very valid reasons for going this route.
But, if you haven't driven a 1.6 FSI, in fine fettle, with full FSI functionality, on 99 octane fuel, you should. Then you can critique it as much as you like.
Is it a future classic? I neither know nor care.

Mac.
@A2Steve
Thanks for the info.
Happy to correct, as above:
Mac.
 

66Beetle

A2OC Donor
I would argue these cars ARE classics but the word is very subjective.

Either way, there’s still enough of them around to significantly depress values from where they will be in time; when people realise they are still the perfect solution for a small, roomy, economical to run, but plush / premium little car that will be reliable ( and now we have proboost for FSI’s we can legitimately claim a large part of A2 reliability woes can be sorted it seems).

I for one am glad I discovered the A2 now before everyone else does. I’m also glad this happened before so many get broken up that the choice is limited and good used parts are scarce.
I am a Member of Lakeland Historic Car Club. Every year at Membership Renewal you are asked what Classic Cars you own. I have always just put the 1966 Beetle and 1972 Type 3 Variant on there. This year I added the 2003 A2. There were no objections, so it must be a Classic, must it not ?
 
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