Audi need the A2 to look really fuel efficient because it's a small aluminium car. From reading here it seems that it's hard to get close to the low consumption claimed by Audi. I do agree that different driving styles and conditions make a big difference, but it should be possible to achieve a claimed figure. In my Punto I beat the combined figure by a few mpg with my average (over 30k miles), but would I beat Audi's figures?
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ianjohnsonws14
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Never quite managed to put petro in the Vectra, came close at times because our other car was petrol.
So far with the Passat the average is just under 39 mpg against a combined figure of 34 and extra urban of 43. Have only achieved 43 over a tank on a handful of occasions with a best of 44 and a worst of 32 so in this case the VAG figures are achieveable, but only with very long runs. Best with the Vectra was 64mpg!
2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield are silver ? ? ?
So far with the Passat the average is just under 39 mpg against a combined figure of 34 and extra urban of 43. Have only achieved 43 over a tank on a handful of occasions with a best of 44 and a worst of 32 so in this case the VAG figures are achieveable, but only with very long runs. Best with the Vectra was 64mpg!
2002 1.4 Petrol SE, silver with climate control.
Why are NEARLY all the A2s in Lichfield are silver ? ? ?
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Tim
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Hi again,
you are quite right of co*** Kaine. The manufacturers know the rules for consumption testing and cars are quite often designed with this in mind. It's a bit like formula one testing used to be, gear the car to get the best results for getting pole. The race is another matter. Hence cars are quite often designed around official mpg testing.
Different cars suit different driving styles, often by complete accident. The concequence you can see by our friend with the Punto. It obviously suits his driving. But I bet if you visit the Fiat forum, you'll find a host of others complaining about the consumption just the same.
My father borrowed my A8 for two weeks when his car was in for accident repairs and he couldn't get on with what they lent him. He commented that it was suprisingly economical for such a large car with so much power. On the DIS when I got it back it said that he had averaged 26.2 mpg. I have tried on many an occasion to duplicate this, even by driving really carefully with the AC off. I've never bettered 23.5 I honestly don't know how he did it!
I guess it is dissapointing when you buy a car that you believe should be ultra economical and it's not what you expected. But if there is a bright side it's that the grass really isn't greener on the other side.
Cheers all.
you are quite right of co*** Kaine. The manufacturers know the rules for consumption testing and cars are quite often designed with this in mind. It's a bit like formula one testing used to be, gear the car to get the best results for getting pole. The race is another matter. Hence cars are quite often designed around official mpg testing.
Different cars suit different driving styles, often by complete accident. The concequence you can see by our friend with the Punto. It obviously suits his driving. But I bet if you visit the Fiat forum, you'll find a host of others complaining about the consumption just the same.
My father borrowed my A8 for two weeks when his car was in for accident repairs and he couldn't get on with what they lent him. He commented that it was suprisingly economical for such a large car with so much power. On the DIS when I got it back it said that he had averaged 26.2 mpg. I have tried on many an occasion to duplicate this, even by driving really carefully with the AC off. I've never bettered 23.5 I honestly don't know how he did it!
I guess it is dissapointing when you buy a car that you believe should be ultra economical and it's not what you expected. But if there is a bright side it's that the grass really isn't greener on the other side.
Cheers all.
80 mpg is certainly feasible, I managed 74 as best over a tankful, but that included short stretches, and with the aircon on at times. Just fill the tank, get yourself onto the motorway at 60 mph constant and drive till the warning light comes on...
It won't be *fun*, but it is feasible.
My average is 67 mpg so I manage to beat Audi's combined figure by a narrow margin.
Werner Huysegoms
It won't be *fun*, but it is feasible.
My average is 67 mpg so I manage to beat Audi's combined figure by a narrow margin.
Werner Huysegoms
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AligProudblade
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Following on from Skyhussars posting above with regards to my A2 I have what may be some useful information for you.
It was previously doing 52mpg on average on a 400 mile return run to Preston. This run was almost entirely motorway and was running at a steady 70mph most of the way.
It turns out that wheel balance can have a huge effect on the economy of an A2. I had the front wheels rebalanced and re-ran the trip to Preston again (im getting sick of this journey - 12 times in 2 months). Low and behold it returned 62mpg. It has since done it again at around 62mpg.
The car in question is a 1.4TDi Sport, with Open Sky System etc etc etc..
If you are concerned about your economy think carefully about the way your car drives. If there is any sign of vibration through the steering wheel and your economy is down then a simple wheel balancing excercise may well fix it.
I hope this information helps somebody else.
PS At the time of balancing I was told that the drivers side front alloy is slightly buckled which still causes a little vibration. Im gonna replace this and see if it further improves.
It was previously doing 52mpg on average on a 400 mile return run to Preston. This run was almost entirely motorway and was running at a steady 70mph most of the way.
It turns out that wheel balance can have a huge effect on the economy of an A2. I had the front wheels rebalanced and re-ran the trip to Preston again (im getting sick of this journey - 12 times in 2 months). Low and behold it returned 62mpg. It has since done it again at around 62mpg.
The car in question is a 1.4TDi Sport, with Open Sky System etc etc etc..
If you are concerned about your economy think carefully about the way your car drives. If there is any sign of vibration through the steering wheel and your economy is down then a simple wheel balancing excercise may well fix it.
I hope this information helps somebody else.
PS At the time of balancing I was told that the drivers side front alloy is slightly buckled which still causes a little vibration. Im gonna replace this and see if it further improves.
Hi Alig,
Welcome to the forum. Good advice!!!! I for one am guilty of assuming the car is in its optimum condition at all times - as if it was just built. Of course there are other issues also to consider, including tyre pressures, extras (i.e. weights, as Johann previously highlighted in another thread) and the number of passengers etc.
Kaine
Welcome to the forum. Good advice!!!! I for one am guilty of assuming the car is in its optimum condition at all times - as if it was just built. Of course there are other issues also to consider, including tyre pressures, extras (i.e. weights, as Johann previously highlighted in another thread) and the number of passengers etc.
Kaine
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jon.od
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My consumption is starting to rise a little as the car gets more miles on
First Tank i got 440 miles
Just got through the fifth tank at 490 miles
2000miles clocked up ina month not to bad, Think i might aswell throw my shell points card away, i was tanking the mini every other day. The local petrol station is in decline since i sold the thirsty little beast.
First Tank i got 440 miles
Just got through the fifth tank at 490 miles
2000miles clocked up ina month not to bad, Think i might aswell throw my shell points card away, i was tanking the mini every other day. The local petrol station is in decline since i sold the thirsty little beast.
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Alexis1537
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Hi there,
It is certainly interesting to read your posts and optimum MPG figures. I got my 1.6 FSI a couple of weeks ago, and am still running it in (I've done about 850 miles), but my average MPG is about 34 over 30 miles. This includes 1/3 motorway (@80 mph), 1/3 dual carriageway (@50 mph or so) and 1/3 London traffic (@10 mph if I'm lucky).
Is this a function of the OpenSky system, or running in itself, or is the FSI simply never going to hit its 50MPG combined figure regardless?
Any thoughts/opinions greatfully appreciated.
Alex
A2 1.6 FSI Sport
Cobalt Blue Metallic
OpenSky
It is certainly interesting to read your posts and optimum MPG figures. I got my 1.6 FSI a couple of weeks ago, and am still running it in (I've done about 850 miles), but my average MPG is about 34 over 30 miles. This includes 1/3 motorway (@80 mph), 1/3 dual carriageway (@50 mph or so) and 1/3 London traffic (@10 mph if I'm lucky).
Is this a function of the OpenSky system, or running in itself, or is the FSI simply never going to hit its 50MPG combined figure regardless?
Any thoughts/opinions greatfully appreciated.
Alex
A2 1.6 FSI Sport
Cobalt Blue Metallic
OpenSky
From what I've heard/read about the FSi, you need a light right foot to obtain decent MPG. If you boot it everywhere, the figure will drop drastically - you need the smooth aproach.
Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a 1.4SE petrol. http://www.audi-a2.co.uk/uk14.htm http://www.audi-a2.co.uk/safety.htm
Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a 1.4SE petrol. http://www.audi-a2.co.uk/uk14.htm http://www.audi-a2.co.uk/safety.htm
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Ex New Beetle
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One thing I have noticed in my 1.4SE is that no matter how I drive I seem to to get 45-49 MPG, wether I take it easy or give it loads of stick. Climate never seems to make much difference either.
weathermanint
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Now done 4,500 miles in my 1.4TDI SE with climate control. Driving into Manchester each day I average about 52mpg. I also drive to Peterborough regularly (from near Wigan where I live) and then I average about 58mpg.
Audi A2 TDI SE Azure Blue with Climate Control
Audi A2 TDI SE Azure Blue with Climate Control
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Ade B
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Well, after 5,000 miles in my TDI SE I'm averaging 58mpg. That's for a daily commute of 40 miles - twisty, hilly B-road, dual carriageway and about 5 miles of bumper-to-bumper. And the service interval just keeps on increasing!
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Puppes
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Umm, I don't understand these figures, for me it's more like 25-30 mpg driving around town, I feel cheated hearing that some people get 70+ mpg
Puppes
There could be a few factors in your case:
Car is so new it will increase mpg until it beds down a bit
You love the performance so much your driving just a little enthusiastically
There is a tehnical problem
What petrol are you using?. Have you tried Shell Optimax for a few tankfulls just to see how it goes-I swear by the stuff!.
Steve - 2002 1.4SE petrol, Silver, black/black interior, Then an identical replacement 2003 A2. Now a Toyota Corolla 1.6 T-Spirit
There could be a few factors in your case:
Car is so new it will increase mpg until it beds down a bit
You love the performance so much your driving just a little enthusiastically
There is a tehnical problem
What petrol are you using?. Have you tried Shell Optimax for a few tankfulls just to see how it goes-I swear by the stuff!.
Steve - 2002 1.4SE petrol, Silver, black/black interior, Then an identical replacement 2003 A2. Now a Toyota Corolla 1.6 T-Spirit
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Puppes
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Hrmm, well, the car is 2 years old after all and has about 2400 miles on the clock, hrmm maybe my driving isn't optimal as you say, I really should take it for a longer trip to see how the ratio is then...
John Reynolds
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Puppes,
I'm getting 40mpg on my daily commute including mostly urban crawl and a few miles on the motorway. It's increased as the car's run-in over the last 5,000 miles.
JR
1.6 FSI, Cobalt Blue, Open Sky, Leather, Bose etc.
I'm getting 40mpg on my daily commute including mostly urban crawl and a few miles on the motorway. It's increased as the car's run-in over the last 5,000 miles.
JR
1.6 FSI, Cobalt Blue, Open Sky, Leather, Bose etc.
Puppes
In that case I would have expected the car to be reasonably loosened up. OK, German engines are known to take approx. 10,000 miles to bed in nicely, so you could get a few more mpg's as the mileage goes on. I presume your's is a 1.4 petrol?. My 1.4's never gave me good consumption-low to mid 30's around town/country. That's no better than my Leon and Corolla-in fact the Corolla is giving me late 30mpg's.
I would try Optimax if you can stretch to the extra pennie per litre-you will notice better fuel consumption and running of the engine.
Failing that do get it checked-there could be a faulty sensor/ecu causing the poor consumption.
Is you engine running fine?. Any noises, hesitations etc?.
Steve - 2002 1.4SE petrol, Silver, black/black interior, Then an identical replacement 2003 A2. Now a Toyota Corolla 1.6 T-Spirit
In that case I would have expected the car to be reasonably loosened up. OK, German engines are known to take approx. 10,000 miles to bed in nicely, so you could get a few more mpg's as the mileage goes on. I presume your's is a 1.4 petrol?. My 1.4's never gave me good consumption-low to mid 30's around town/country. That's no better than my Leon and Corolla-in fact the Corolla is giving me late 30mpg's.
I would try Optimax if you can stretch to the extra pennie per litre-you will notice better fuel consumption and running of the engine.
Failing that do get it checked-there could be a faulty sensor/ecu causing the poor consumption.
Is you engine running fine?. Any noises, hesitations etc?.
Steve - 2002 1.4SE petrol, Silver, black/black interior, Then an identical replacement 2003 A2. Now a Toyota Corolla 1.6 T-Spirit
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Ex New Beetle
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There must have been something wrong with your 1.4 petrol surely? Mine is driven very enthusiasticly, I rarely change gear before 4500-5000 rpm, and I get a constant 45-49 mpg, this is with Climate control on 50% of the time and windows down the rest of it. The cars 2 1/2 years old and has covered 9000 miles. I would be absolutely gutted with low to mid 30's. One of the real plusses that made me choose the A2 1.4 was its quick revvy performance without the fuel bills.
If you are only doing very short city trips then the car may not be warming up, all the fuel consumption figures you read will be with a hot engine, whislt heating up the car will run rich and use LOADS of fuel. Plus dont think that the temp gauge saying 90 is warmed up, thats the water temp, the oil is the important one and that takes longer (even the Castrol stuff). Sitting in traffic wont help either.
To check your car for a problem I would go on a 1 hour consumption-run on open roads and reset your fuel meter after 15mins of driving. That will let you know if you have a technical problem.
Ricardo
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